The Las Vegas Review-Journal ran an editorial in its Saturday’s edition entitled, “UFC should knock out phony Culinary organizing bid.” The editorial take shots at Culinary Local 226, a staunch opponent of the Fertitta brothers and the UFC as it criticizes the latest efforts by the union to assist unionizing UFC fighters.
The editorial lashes out against the union citing that it has failed to unionize the Fertitta-owned Station Casinos “because of hostility, harassment and bad-faith tactics.” It also describes a “political blockade in New York” which has prevented the legalization of MMA in New York.
The editorial is surprisingly devoid of valid, well-written, articulate and clear arguments articulating the point that the Culinary Union is bad and the Fertittas and the UFC are the victims. Instead, there are a lot of conclusions without evidence. To top it off, the editorial ends with the reference that the union should “tap out.” There is no real call to action or what will happen if the Culinary Union continues.
Payout Perspective:
There are ways to use the media to get your point across. Obviously, the editorial is pro-UFC and anti-Culinary Union. Yet, it is so blatant and without reason that it just smacks of propaganda. Certainly, the UFC could have provided a far better article and/or placement than a hastily written editorial.
dave says
Ronda Rousey tweeted the article out:
Ronda Rousey @RondaRousey 4h4 hours ago
Wow. Unbelievable….
http://m.reviewjournal.com/opinion/editorial-ufc-should-knock-out-phony-culinary-organizing-bid …
She does not seem to realize that Professional Athlete Associations have always helped the top athletes as well as the ones beneath them. Look what negotiated salary disclosure does to salaries. She would be in a much better position to negotiate the highest ever contract in MMA if she knew what GSP, Brock and others made before her. Same with Conor.
Unless she was saying Wow, unbeleivable… (I can’t believe Dana actually wants me to believe what’s in this article)
David
tops E says
Hahahahaha…..desperate….ufc afraid of union for fighters….ali act for mma!
joe says
Lolsmh
BrainSmasher says
You are wrong Dave. You assume she doesn’t know what other fighters make. That is a false assumption. Easily proven by many fighters sharing the same managers as well as contracts being leaked and UFC projected PPV sales.
Those Unions you speak of are never good for the top. That is why boxers make more money at the top than any other athletes in much more popular sports and bigger industries. Because of unions and agreed upon salaries and pay. We now have salary caps. The two have caused what we see in the NBA with maximum contracts. Basically there is like 20 guys with all the same contract because there is a limit. In other words the best player in the world isn’t able to be paid like the best player. Players now can’t even make what Jordan was making as an old player 15-20 years ago despite the revenue of the league being bigger.
d says
Of course this is propaganda. Just like everything the culinary union put out there in the media about the UFC. The fighters are not going to support the culinary union or Teamsters in this situation, after all, this is a union that is attempting to ban mma and has done so in 1 state already. If they want to unionize, they should look elsewhere.
dave says
Brainsmasher,
My point being that the associations allow the players to get 50% of the gross revenue because they know what the numbers are.
The NBA players agreed to have maximum salaries and you don’t hear too many NBA players complaining about salaries.
Boxers at the top make huge numbers, that is because promoters must tell the fighters exactly what they are making off of them. The Ali act was put in place because promoters were ripping off fighters. The UFC is a promoter and is not Ronda’s friend or business partner, if she was a true partner she would have access to there books.
It seems hard to understand why people would think the players associations in Baseball, Football, Hockey and Basketball are bad for the players.
d says
“Dave” aka one of the many boxing troll aliases, several inaccurate statements here.
First off, the NFL for YEARS never opened their books. The NFLPA was never privy to that info.
You said the NBA players agreed to have max salaries and you don’t hear too many NBA players complaining about salaries. The issue with this is you don’t hear about any UFC ppv stars complaining about pay. This is why the union movement would never succeed here- they would have to get the stars aboard, and none of them will jump to it because they are making millions.
Also, boxers do not make huge figures because their promoters must tell them the figures. They are making that money because the boxers are the selling point- NOT the promotions. IE, Floyd Mayweather’s promoter- Floyd Mayweather. Even the ppv fighters who co promote like Cotto, Pac, etc. have 80-90% of the leverage. If those promoters wanted more of the take, the boxers would just promote it by themselves. It is the opposite in mma, where the UFC is the selling point.
Ronda Rousey does have audit rights to her ppv buys which is where the overwhelming majority of their money comes from. We obviously also know what the gate is when she fights in the US also. It isn’t hard for a fighter within the industry to have a good idea of what their events are generating. Almost none are complaining. The ones who are complaining are the mid tier and lower level fighters- the same fighters who make much more than their boxing counterparts and are insured by the UFC.
Your argument is completely illogical.
joe says
Either a Union or the Ali Act would be helpful to the MMA fighters
d says
Depends on what union and depends on what mma fighters. By the way, a union would be helpful to boxers also. Maybe prelim fighters on major promotions would actually make money for fighting that way.
dave says
My point is simply that history has shown the benefits of players associations in maximizing the earnings of the athletes.
Ronda does very well financially, with more disclosure she would be in a better position to negotiate a better salary. If an association was able to bring in free agency into the UFC her compensation would sky rocket.
d says
But as I pointed out, your point isn’t necessarily true.
Barfy says
In my humble but educated opinion the UFC is just a shady business focused primarily on making money. Most of what it offers is commercials and illusions for gullible keyboard warriors who think a bit of jiu jitsu with boxing will automatically make them the “ultimate” fighters.
Most UFC fans come across as cultists: they never question the UFC, they never say anything negative about the UFC, they will agree with ANYTHING the UFC does. This is the typical cultist behavior: defend the delusion, attack everyone who threatens it.
So the Culinary Union said something negative about the UFC and a mouthpiece of the UFC is overreacting and bashing the CU and I’m supposed to do the same now like a good drone that I am…NO! I won’t. The UFC should first learn to respect its fighters and cut the sensationalist BS. I’m tired of seeing fighters fight only once per year. I’m tired of all the promotional BS. I’m tired of all the useless debates on which fighter is better. Back in the day MMA was 90% fighting. Now it’s just a joke.
As far as I’m concerned, the UFC doesn’t deserve to be defended considering the way it treats people.
d says
Barfy, that is your very uneducated opinion.
The Culinary Union didn’t just say something negative about the UFC. They lobbied corruptly and bribed their politicians to ban mma in the state of NY. That doesn’t just harm the UFC, it harms all professional mma fighters attempting to make a living who could potentially fight there. It also creates a situation where amateur fighters are not being regulated for their bouts which is very dangerous.
So now, all of a sudden the Culinary Union- which has zero education on mma has done everything they can to ban it, is going to be the savior of UFC fighters? I bet you anything the fighters don’t go for it. If they want to unionize, they will look elsewhere than a union who has done nothing other than attempt to shut down the sport.
Barfy says
There’s no proof CU bribed anyone.
There’s no proof they did anything wrong.
Everything is speculation and vilification coming from UFC freaks.
So CU knows nothing about MMA but business people and promoters like Rebook do? No surprise there, last time I checked most of the UFC’s activities had to do with sponsors, promoters and lawsuits. Fighting has become only a slideshow, I see. It’s never about taking better care of fighters and improving the flaws in MMA. It’s always about $$$.
Keep drinking White’s bathwater. Defend the high priest of the UFC like a good brainwashed cultist that you are. You’re only going to prove my point.
d says
You aren’t very bright are you? There is a ton of proof they bribed members of the NY state assembly and they’ve sponsored a number of propaganda pieces that smeared mma and the UFC.
Reebok has no involvement what so ever in any type of direct relations with the fighter outside of sponsorship. They sponsor fighters, period. They don’t deal with their UFC contracts. Your analogy is idiotic.
You are a retarded moron. Keep ranting like the idiot you are. It is amusing.
Barfy says
Right, tons of proof that would never stand up in court. Good luck with that.
When fighters are not allowed to talk about Rebook and MMA veterans lose their jobs because of a few slightly negative comments they made about Rebook, it’s obvious that Rebook and co are pulling the strings.
Everything Rebook does has a direct impact on the fighters. So for you to pretend that the decisions of a bunch of business suits have absolutely no influence in the sport is just dumb. They OWN the company and they make the rules.
It’s so obvious UFC cultists are brainwashed fools. I’m not even going to argue with you anymore. When someone goes so far as to deny reality just to defend the delusion, they’re beyond common sense and reason. I’m done wasting time with you.