Manny Pacquiao will make at least $7 million and Timothy Bradley will make $4 million for their third fight coming this Saturday in Las Vegas.
Kevin Iole posted the purses for Saturday night’s event which will be on HBO PPV.
Purses for Saturday. Pacman and Bradley also share in PPV revenue pic.twitter.com/aeSQwNhENo
— Kevin Iole (@KevinI) April 6, 2016
According to the Las Vegas Journal Review’s Steve Carp, Pacquiao will make $20 million including PPV.
36-year old Arthur Abraham will make $500,000 in his WBO Super Middleweight title defense against Gilberto Ramirez. The challenger will make $150,000.
Payout Perspective:
Bradley will also make more than the reported $4 million as he will receive a share of the PPV revenue. The question will be how many people will pay $70 to watch this fight. It appears that HBO has taken the foot off the gas when it comes to promoting this fight since Pacquiao’s controversial comments. HBO issued a statement about Pacquiao and his comments about homosexuality. Nike dropped Pacquiao. There are less mainstream articles about this fight as opposed to Pacquiao’s previous fights taking place in Vegas. We have not seen a 24/7 series and it seems that only the hardcore boxing fans are interested in this fight. Would things have been different without Pacquiao’s comments?
Fight Fan says
Yeah haven’t even seen any commercials or anything. Hope Bradley wins
Wil says
This one is strictly for the purists, its actually a good looking fight and i wouldnt be surprised if Bradley, with Atlas in his corner, wins this one. Manny will clear alot more than that 7m by the way, Arum has already drive his purse up.
Wil says
By the way, I will be watching this one at a family fight party….that starts with the Showtime Boxing card from London, and then continuing with this one…..i apologize for any drunk posting I may do 🙂
d says
Sounds like someone is lying. I knew when I heard 20m it was an exaggeration, there is no money to support those figures. The 20m delusion would be including ppv revenue- which in this case will not come seeing how it is going to bomb royally.
Conor McGregor makes more money than Manny now- not that it matters because it is his last fight.
d says
Another thing that is rarely posted and should be addressed- look at those figures for the bottom boxers. If those numbers were published by the boxing media more often- we’d be hearing the same things about the poor pay as we do when everyone jumps all over the UFC’s posted figures. Just look at the totals:
Bauer……$1,500
Vazquez….$2,000
Haney……..$3,000
Kava……….$7,500
There are four boxers right there that will make less than literally every single ufc fighter in any fight including TUF Finales. Bauer makes less than anyone from the UFC will make in sponsorship and makes less than anyone in Bellator does.
This is a ppv, not some HBO or Showtime card. Even though Pac isn’t the draw he once was- he is still a big name. For those purses to be that low is a disgrace. So just remember when someone talks about the great pay boxers receive, just remember- it is only for the guys headlining and co-headlining(sometimes).
French-Canadian Boxing Fan says
@d
It doesn’t make sense to compare boxing with the UFC. It is PERVERTED and here’s why:
UFC IS NOT MMA, Non-UFC MMA fighters make as low or lower than boxing journeyman. WSOF guys on the undercard where making $500 and if we look at King Of The Cage (are they still around?) or TITAN or whatever non-UFC MMA promotions out there, low-end guys there make as little or even less than low-level pro-boxers.
Pro-boxing is a worldwide sport and it is HUGE. Just the middleweight division in boxing has thousands of active boxers, the UFC has maybe 400-700 guys total when you add all the guys from all the weight divisions combined. The UFC is a backyard swimming pool compared to boxing which is a lake or maybe an ocean compared to it.
And why compare the “bottom” of each sport? That’s weird… I could make a case that being a school teacher pays better than being a businessman because 80% to 90% of new startups fail while teaching school is a guaranteed income. But who does that in the world? We all know that if you succeed in business, you could become insanely wealthy. Just like boxing. MMA on the other hand has a ceiling.
MMA culture is full of dabblers and hobbyists. Boxing is for real, you can start homeless in boxing and be able to afford training as boxing is very cheap to pick up or free in many cases. Boxing can make turn some homeless guys into millionaires. Yeah, few (and only a few) become rich in boxing but how is that different from Silicon Valley or Hollywood or the music business or making the NBA or the NFL or MLB or NHL or whatnot? Many are called but few are chosen, this is the way the world works in boxing AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
jf says
@d No way McGregor makes more than Many. He made 1m, Many makes 7m. With PPV and sponsorship, Conor made 10m, Many is claimed to be making 20m EVEN if the PPV was to make les than 1 m buy (which it won’t), his total purse will be above the 10m mark for sure.
d says
@French Canadian,
It makes no sense to compare non UFC televised fights to boxing ppvs with one of their top 2 or 3 draws. That is perverted.
WSOF is not a major fight promotion. They do ratings of 200k at most. To compare that to a major boxing promotion like Top Rank, etc. reeks of fanboy exaggeration.
Also, low level pro boxers make less than these promotions when they are not fighting for the majors. Boxers can make a few hundred to fight on ESPN cards.
Pro boxing is not huge and mma is starting to grow globally and they’ve already taken over a number of different nations from boxing. Also, I wasn’t comparing small promotions in boxing to the UFC, I was comparing the majors. There are hundreds of thousands of low profile mma promotions out there that you’ve never even heard of. You’ve taken this argument completely out of context.
“And why compare the “bottom” of each sport? That’s weird”
Because every time a ufc payout report is posted, all you hear about is how poorly those low level fighters are paid, meanwhile those same people criticizing prelim fighter payouts, praise boxing payouts. IE, they compare Mayweather to guys no one ever heard of buried on a random prelim card because no one ever posts those boxing figures.
“We all know that if you succeed in business, you could become insanely wealthy. Just like boxing. MMA on the other hand has a ceiling.”
Uh, there isn’t a ceiling in boxing right now?? McGregor and Rousey likely get paid more than every boxer other than Canelo and his ceiling isn’t much higher. Granted, the split is higher between headlining boxer and major promoter vs the UFC and their fighters, the truth is those boxers are overpaid, while the UFC headliners are somewhat underpaid. The UFC fights are generating more money than the major boxing ppvs now with Mayweather gone. This is a fact although I’m sure you will attempt to deny it.
d says
“MMA culture is full of dabblers and hobbyists.”
Or in reality full of decorated and more reputable, well rounded athletes, as opposed to boxing and their flare.
” Boxing is for real, you can start homeless in boxing and be able to afford training as boxing is very cheap to pick up or free in many cases. Boxing can make turn some homeless guys into millionaires. ”
Can you name one homeless guy who turned into a millionaire due to boxing?
“Yeah, few (and only a few) become rich in boxing but how is that different from Silicon Valley or Hollywood or the music business or making the NBA or the NFL or MLB or NHL or whatnot? Many are called but few are chosen, this is the way the world works in boxing AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.”
Exactly how it is in mma.
d says
“@d No way McGregor makes more than Many. He made 1m, Many makes 7m. With PPV and sponsorship, Conor made 10m, Many is claimed to be making 20m EVEN if the PPV was to make les than 1 m buy (which it won’t), his total purse will be above the 10m mark for sure.”
Na, he made more than Manny. Manny is not making 20m. No way, shape or form. Show me how he can make that type of money with a 7m purse and this fight generating a fraction of what his fights have done in the past? Where is the 20m coming from? That would make the payouts to the fighters for that card over 25m. Where is the 25m? The gate will likely do around 5-8m(if that), sponsorship might be about a half of a million, int’l tv, maybe another 3-4m. PPV probably 10-15m. That is the gross also, not the net. They have to pay to promote which costs millions, taxes, a variety of other costs and Arum gets around a 20% split.
The math isn’t there for him to make 20m unless he gets a very unlikely high amount of buys which everyone knows will not happen.
Also, McGregor is making the bulk of his money from bonuses like PPV/Gate, etc, not from sponsorship.
French-Canadian Boxing Fan says
@d
I counted the number of Bellator fighters from their wikipedia page, it’s about 175 guys TOTAL. The top 175 boxers in the world make more than those 175 Bellator guys.
In boxing, low-level boxers pay very little for training compared to MMA guys. Low-level boxers can stick around for years and years and pick up small checks here and there. In the UFC or Bellator or One FC or whatever, their low-end guys are as expendable as anyone can be in this world. The guys picking up $8000 checks in the UFC are not gonna stick around for 5 years and pile up their checks, they’re probably gonna get axed after a few fights and replaced by other bottom guys.
About homeless guys, Manny Pacquiao was homeless as a teen and turned pro at age 14. We all know he did very well for himself.
d says
Why are you comparing the top 175 boxers in the world to a 2nd tier mma promotion? You have to realize how absurd and ridiculous that is.
In boxing , low-level boxers are not insured like UFC fighters are, they make a fraction of the purses and next to zero sponsorship money like UFC prelimers do. They also don’t have the ability to make bonus money like a number of UFC prelimers have. Go show me a prelim fighter from any boxing card ever that can make over 100k in a fight like a UFC fighter can- and have. You can’t do it. Your argument is delusional. The pay disparity from the top of boxing to the bottom is 10x worse than any sport including mma.
Also, to say that low level boxers can pick up checks as journeymen that mma fighters can not, is senseless. How many guys like Shannon Ritch, Travis Fulton, etc are out there? Those guys make small checks too. It is arguably better in mma. You act like Top Rank or GB, etc prelim fighters aren’t expendable. A boxer loses a fight or two, and their career is railroaded. It isn’t the same in mma. You can lose from time to time and not have to disappear. No one makes 8k in the UFC. Their contracts are 10k/10k minimums which are significantly higher than their boxing counterparts.
Manny Pacquiao was as homeless as a teen as Jim Carey. It is called a made up story to create a rags to riches delusion. He wasn’t homeless. He left home. There is a difference.
You act like Anderson Silva was rich growing up. Hahaha.
Fight Fan says
Lol D is in full combustion, want some wings?
d says
Fight Fan can’t take the reality of the situation that McGregor gets paid more than Pacquiao. Hahahahaha. He can’t find that info out at his local Buffalo Wild Wings, his usual spot for his education. Hahahaha.
Gil says
No one really asked for this fight and like Mayweathers last fight it will sell poorly. I’m actually more interested in the outcome of the Ramirez vs. Abraham fight.
French-Canadian Boxing Fan says
@d
Boxing is cheaper and easier to get into from a $ standpoint than MMA, nobody in his right mind can deny that. MMA is like Hockey compared to boxing which would be soccer in comparison. Hockey will never be a worldwide accessible sport like soccer and MMA will never be like boxing, MMA will never be as accessible. The comparison is between an accessible world-wide sport compared to an expensive high-end activity limited in its appeal. That is why the number of pro boxers is so high in the world compared to MMA guys.
This is also why the pay disparity is so high in boxing. Boxing is the only sport where almost anybody can play. Our sport has 17 weight classes to accommodate the real human diversity in size from 105 pounds all the way to 200 (with unlimited weight) in the heavyweight division. Boxers can be very short or they can be giants. Boxers can be educated or illiterate. Boxers can have amateur experience or none. Boxers can start later in life. The door is open in boxing… Open to all regardless of background, race, economic level, physical size etc… Our sport is the most democratic there is in this world and again that’s why the pay disparity is high. When almost anybody can play, the game becomes top-heavy.
MMA training is at least $150 or more a month. Boxing can be as little as $50 a year.
You can talk about bonuses that UFC guys get. So what? Bottom guys in the UFC will lose it all when they get fired and replaced by other low level guys. Lets see them making these deals when they end up on a MFC (largest Canadian MMA promotion, check out their youtube channel and see how low their video views are LOL) undercard. Where is the big money now on TITAN undercards or King Of The Cage undercards. Where are the f-ing bonuses now?
In boxing when you lose too much (or simply lose a few fights) you simply become an opponent, a journeyman and maybe in the best case scenario a gatekeeper. Boxers can keep going for years. Boxers also have a lower rate of injuries than MMA guys who break their whole bodies up and end up with health issues from head to toe. Low level boxers can keep going for years.
MMA is as top heavy as boxing, don’t kid yourself. Only high-end boxers make MORE.
The Greatest says
Manny makes more money than McGregor without question.
Ds just panicking again
The Greatest says
Bradley makes more money than Mcgregor
d says
“Boxing is cheaper and easier to get into from a $ standpoint than MMA, nobody in his right mind can deny that. MMA is like Hockey compared to boxing which would be soccer in comparison. Hockey will never be a worldwide accessible sport like soccer and MMA will never be like boxing, MMA will never be as accessible. The comparison is between an accessible world-wide sport compared to an expensive high-end activity limited in its appeal. That is why the number of pro boxers is so high in the world compared to MMA guys.”
To get into?? No. That isn’t accurate. If you want to train at a major gym, etc, maybe. You act like these guys from Brazil have money. Guys like Aldo and Silva were raised in dirt poor poverty. MMA is very accessible. That’s ridiculous. How much does it cost to get into wrestling or a small, local mma gym? Its nothing, just like boxing. Limited in its appeal? Yeah, that’s why they are dominating the market share and destroy anything with boxing in every category. The number of pro boxers is NOT so high in the US, and worldwide it may be just because the broad appeal has been gradual. Boxing has been around for over 100 years, mma as a sport has only been for a little over 20.
“This is also why the pay disparity is so high in boxing. Boxing is the only sport where almost anybody can play. Our sport has 17 weight classes to accommodate the real human diversity in size from 105 pounds all the way to 200 (with unlimited weight) in the heavyweight division. Boxers can be very short or they can be giants. Boxers can be educated or illiterate. Boxers can have amateur experience or none. Boxers can start later in life. The door is open in boxing… Open to all regardless of background, race, economic level, physical size etc… Our sport is the most democratic there is in this world and again that’s why the pay disparity is high. When almost anybody can play, the game becomes top-heavy.”
False. The pay disparity is different only at the top because again, headlining boxers are overpaid while mma headliners are underpaid. Weight classes are really not much different- they are just chopped up more in boxing. MMA ranges from 125-265lbs. Everything else you are stating here can be said for mma, you are not presenting anything valid. If you want to talk about democracy, what democracy in this world would support 99% of the wealth going to the top fighters? It is the opposite.
d says
“MMA training is at least $150 or more a month. Boxing can be as little as $50 a year.”
You can go to local rec gyms that train fighters in mma for literally free. You don’t know what you are talking about.
“You can talk about bonuses that UFC guys get. So what?”
Well, that invalidates your argument. That’s so what.
“Bottom guys in the UFC will lose it all when they get fired and replaced by other low level guys. ”
The bottom guys in boxing have nothing at all to lose, because they do not make the same amount of money as ufc fighters. And they get canned quicker than UFC fighters do.
” Lets see them making these deals when they end up on a MFC (largest Canadian MMA promotion, check out their youtube channel and see how low their video views are LOL) undercard. Where is the big money now on TITAN undercards or King Of The Cage undercards. Where are the f-ing bonuses now?”
They don’t, but boxers don’t make that type of money anyway, and when boxers lose consistently they are sent to the minor promotions permanently, whereas if you lose a few ufc fights, you can typically make it back to the big leagues with some quality minor league wins. The same can’t be said for boxing. Where are the f’ing bonuses in boxing period? 1k purses for major promotions. Unreal. That’s a disgrace.
“In boxing when you lose too much (or simply lose a few fights) you simply become an opponent, a journeyman and maybe in the best case scenario a gatekeeper. Boxers can keep going for years. Boxers also have a lower rate of injuries than MMA guys who break their whole bodies up and end up with health issues from head to toe. Low level boxers can keep going for years.
MMA is as top heavy as boxing, don’t kid yourself. Only high-end boxers make MORE.”
Yeah, and when you do that, you have no chance of making it back to the majors in boxing as opposed to mma. Also, those journeyman/gatekeepers make dirt. They don’t make major promotion money. They make minor league money. MMA fighters can fight longer than boxers. The health issues with boxers are 1000x worse. Boxing is a more dangerous sport. Go educate yourself on this- the level of CTE in boxing is astronomical. You can’t name one mma fighter who has any form of dementia specifically from mma and the sport has been around for over 20 years. I can name a number of big named boxers that have gotten dementia over the past few years. And let’s not even get into in ring deaths where it is a million times worse in boxing.
MMA is not top heavy as boxing. Go look up the purses. The lowest UFC fighter makes 10k/10k, you have guys on Manny’s ppv making 1500k. Check mate.
d says
“Manny makes more money than McGregor without question.
Ds just panicking again”
Yet in reality he doesn’t and you lie a lot.
“Bradley makes more money than Mcgregor”
Bradley wishes he made more than McGregor.
Wil says
D finally ran into someone who likes to argue more than he does…lol
Wil says
Also, odd that we are comparing mcgregor to bradley since bradley isnt the highest paid boxer there is, and mcgregor is the highest paid in his sport, possibly ever before he is done. The IBF heavyweight fight tomorrow has the champion paid over 8m and the challenger making more than 11m.
Wil says
And I agree, the Abraham-Ramirez fight has potential fight of the year written all over it.
Fight Fan says
D put your money where your mouth is, manny is making more off this fight than McLoser did his last. Loser leaves the board for 2 months?
d says
“Also, odd that we are comparing mcgregor to bradley since bradley isnt the highest paid boxer there is, and mcgregor is the highest paid in his sport, possibly ever before he is done. The IBF heavyweight fight tomorrow has the champion paid over 8m and the challenger making more than 11m.”
Wil finally met his match made in heaven….the weakest. The two love fabricating statistics.
There is no way on this Earth those guys made anywhere near that. Don’t you guys ever question gossip numbers?
Fight Fan says
Still waiting d, you said McChunp makes more than manny, put your money where your mouth is. Pretty sure my buffalo wings cook even knows this
d says
“D put your money where your mouth is, manny is making more off this fight than McLoser did his last. Loser leaves the board for 2 months?”
Seeing how we don’t know what either will make definitively for either fight, your proposition would be a waste of time. Besides, boxing fanboys have a terrible track record of wagering things like that on here with me. I’ve ko’d 2 of them already. You are probably one of their other aliases though.
Looking at Manny’s purse though, it would be hard to believe he will make any money from ppv unless it defies expectations. It’s fair to say he likely won’t make much more than 7m for this fight. McGregor claimed he made 10m, although he may not have made that much, he likely did make around 8m- that fight was massive and the UFC is paying him significantly more than ppv stars were making in the past.
Fight Fan says
D if that’s the case you should have no issue taking it. You make claims all day long with no sources and then when you get called out on it you back away and say it’s not worth it lol. Keep dreaming and I’ll keep eating my wings.
tops E says
D is in rage! Hahaha….talk about flash,china and new cfo he would stop hahahaha
d says
Fight Fan, there’s nothing to take, we don’t have their books disclosed. Obviously only one of us is smart enough to comprehend this. I’m not backing out of anything, I’m undefeated with bets like this. You on the other hand are proven wrong every time you request evidence of something. Hahaha.
I know you are eating your wings, that’s apparently your social and educational outlet. Hahahaha.
d says
Tops is continuing his full court press. HAHAHA! PBC heading for extinction…. UFC headed for record numbers. Maybe Tops will be able to bid on the jumbotron. Hahahahaha.
turd says
d in all fairness anthony joshua does sell out the o2 arena he is quite popular in england. boxing is still big over seas just not in the states
Fight Fan says
D you just said that McLoser makes more than these guys and now you don’t have access to the books when it’s convienent for you lol.
d says
Turd, I understand he is popular, but selling out the 02 arena, doesn’t equate to 11 and 8m dollar purses. They do a fraction of the ppv buys that ufc ppvs do and Skytv ppv costs less than half of what a ufc ppv does. Their gates are also not very big- the UK market isn’t anywhere near what the N. American market is. You can’t make that type of money abroad just from the fights themselves. Where would the revenue be coming from to support those figures? It doesn’t add up.
d says
“D you just said that McLoser makes more than these guys and now you don’t have access to the books when it’s convienent for you lol”
Hahaha. All you do on here is throw out ambiguous at best statistics(most of the time they are flat out lies), and now, when I make an assumption based on supportive evidence, that is likely true, you imply I’m using stats as a matter of convenience? Hahaha.
Delusions of grandeur.
The Greatest says
Charles Martin making a guaranteed $5M to fight Anthony Joshua today. Joshua set to make $7M+
Boxing.
d says
Fabricated statistics and lies by the weakest and…
Boxing.
The Greatest says
These are indisputable facts.
Boxing
Wil says
Here are the reports on the fight purses. if they are acccurate, fine, if they are not, fine. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on here will be getting a dime of it or any other fighter in either sport. Dial it back bro, you get too obsessed about this stuff.
https://worldboxingscene.com/2016/04/04/joshua-haye-fury-wilder-bouts-12-months-away-set-to-earn-8-million-against-martin/
Combo says
MMA keeps growing globally, with the UFC having it’s first event in Croatia this Sunday, and the Netherlands later this year.
MMA continues its takeover.
The Greatest says
Whoa.
Croatia? Watch out for these guys
Combo says
Sure Watch out. It’s produced fighters like, oh, Crocop. And Stipe is of Croatian origin.
Great to see it in the Netherlands as well.
MMA keeps growing, countries big and small.
fight fan says
Yeah the takeover just like poker when it was on a bunch of channels and then faded away like the wind.
d says
You guys are comedians.
Hey Wil, your source is not a source. I remember someone the other day claiming that Pacquaio’s purse was 20m. Then when Iole got ahold of the actual purses posted above, it turned out to be 7m. So think about your argument. You are claiming purses for the Joshua fight of at least around 20m, while Pac-Bradley’s are roughly 15m for a fight that is going to do more revenue in terms of gate, ppv revenue, and int’l tv contracts. Hahahahahaha.
Once again, boxing math does not equate to actual math.
d says
“Yeah the takeover just like poker when it was on a bunch of channels and then faded away like the wind.”
Uh, poker was around and really popular for only a few years. MMA has dominated the ppv landscape for 8 out of the past 9 years. The UFC’s rumored sale number was 6b. Every boxing promotion combined is worth a fraction of that. You are really getting desperate these days.
tops E says
Hahahaha…takeover? hahaha….good performance by pacman….he could fight a couple more….he is changing into a counter puncher with speed and power….can extend career
tops E says
Anthony joshua won in round 2….boxings heavyweight is stacked!!….he sold out o2 arena now he says he wants u.s. Ppv…..hahaha…good for boxing
The Greatest says
Anthony Joshua was on UK ppv.
His last one did 450k which was great since they only expected 200k.
This one was for a HW belt so Im guessing easily above 500k. Probably around 600-700k.
Doesn’t matter the price when you factor in cost of living and inflation and all that.
And its widely reported that hes making $7M-$8M+.
Charles Martin will get $5M for standing there.
The Greatest says
” d on April 9th, 2016 8:29 PM
You guys are comedians.
Hey Wil, your source is not a source. I remember someone the other day claiming that Pacquaio’s purse was 20m. Then when Iole got ahold of the actual purses posted above, it turned out to be 7m. So think about your argument. You are claiming purses for the Joshua fight of at least around 20m, while Pac-Bradley’s are roughly 15m for a fight that is going to do more revenue in terms of gate, ppv revenue, and int’l tv contracts. Hahahahahaha.”
–According to the Las Vegas Journal Review’s Steve Carp, Pacquiao will make $20 million including PPV
Thats from the article that you are currently posting on.
$7M is his guaranteed check that he walks out of the arena with. $20M is everything included, regarding ppv, gate, international rights and so on.
Bradley gets a guaranteed $4M but will get some ppv cuts as well.
The ppv cost $70. 400k ppvs would equal $28M. That right there covers their payouts.
I think they are projecting probably around 500k, so thats about $35M from PPV.
PPV could easily be up to 700-800K buys, but I would probably say 500k is a good guess for now.
d says
Ah, the comedian returns. This stuff is great.
You notice for Joshua, his source is….Joshua! Haha. Skytv ppv buys again are a joke, and to accept a ppv number from a fighter as evidence is ridiculous. Not to mention again, the math does not add up. Not to mention the numbers are going up and down, one minute it is 8m for Charles, and 11m for Joshua and that was pounds, now it is 5 and 8 and that is in us dollars. Hahaha. They can’t keep their lies straight.
As for the Pacquaio numbers. What Carp is doing is factoring in ppv/gate numbers, etc. He is acknowledging the purse is 7m for pac and 4m for Bradley, with a total purse payout of roughly 12m for all fighters. Now, the other 13m Carp is suggesting is coming from…..BOB ARUM!! Hahahahaha. Because it is an estimated delusion he conjured up in his brain based on a delusional ppv theory. Pac is NOT getting 20m for that fight.
Your math is always amusing also. Here is the real math for the ppv:
Realistically speaking, this fight could completely tank and only do around 300-400k buys. No one was interested in this fight, not even the guys who stalk mma fans on here, obsessing about how boxing is better than mma, etc. For argument’s sake, let’s say this fight did around 450k buys, which it likely did. The price was $70x450k buys which equals 31.5m….however as everyone who has studied this subject knows, the ppv providers, ie Comcast, Verizon, Dish, etc get a 50-60% split of the revenue. Let’s assume since this is Top Rank involved they are getting a 50% split. Well, now you are left with only 15.75m, half of what the Weakest believed.
So take that 15m or whatever add it to a weak gate (for Pac standards) which was likely in the 5-8m range. Add in some int’l tv which was probably no more than around 4m (no Mexicans or Brits were involved and that is the biggest int’l tv/ppv market), and then some weak sponsorship of maybe a million or two. Where are you at? Maybe this event grossed 20-25m. Haha. Then you got to pay out senile Arum for around 20% of the split, you’ve got to pay taxes on the event- sales taxes, plus other business related taxes, you’ve got to pay for insurance, licensing, you’ve got to pay to promote the thing, etc. The net for this fight was probably around 15-18m. Pacqauio does not get a dime after his initial purse if the event does not net money- because Arum gets paid first at that point.
Math is a beautiful thing. It exposes frauds with definitive evidence.
Hahahahahaha.
Fight Fan says
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/15150402/manny-pacquiao-guaranteed-20m-payout-timothy-bradley-bout
Nice try d
Fight Fan says
D you always forget the fact that other countries and networks pay for the rights to air the fight as well.
d says
Hahaha. Did you read what I said? The facts show that the purse was 7m. The exaggerated number provided was Arum’s claims based on the success of the show. Rafael is sourcing Top Rank aka Bob Arum. Hahahaha. You guys are funny.
Seriously, you need to educate yourself on the subject. The networks do not pay for ppvs. The rights to the event go to HBO, NOT TO Pacquaio or Top Rank. That’s what they get after paying for the production. So to be clear- here are the revenue streams for the fight:
-PPV revenue
-Gate
-Sponsorship
-Bars
-Int’l tv (I mentioned this above, some people don’t bother to read)
I don’t believe there were any site fees due to the lack of interest, however if there were, they were minimal.
I noted what the above estimations were for those streams and after the promotion’s costs, they don’t come anywhere near 25m dollars. So that would mean 1 of 2 things- either Bob Arum is lying about Pacquaio’s payout, or Arum is going to lose millions for this event.
Fight Fan says
lol d full combustion as usual. Panda Express fighting is coming soon.
d says
Hahaha. Fight Fan running away as usual when he is proven wrong.
tops E says
Pacman vs canelo is what theyre planning…thats why mayweather went to the mgm….its going to be gbp and top rank making money hahahaha…when broner was being considered as pacmans next opponent he got contracted theopane right away,when crawford got mentioned mayweather,he advised crawford pac is really good….hahaha
The Greatest says
Its typical of D too ramble on and throw completely fabricated numbers to try and prove his point.
Numerous sites report Pacquiaos numbers at $7M up front and $20M after ppv.
D will claim they are wrong and then turn around and tell us McGregor makes $10M because he says he does.
Get the F-uk outta here
d says
Typical of the weakest to just lie left and right and manufacture delusions of what I claimed.
I notice of course, you also dodged my point of how the cable providers get half of the ppv split, which you decided to include to the total gross for the promotion. Haha.
Those numerous sites are all reporting something sourced from Bob Arum. It would have been accepted that the purse was 20m up front as was reported initially, but for once, Iole actually did his job and reported the real number. Now, if Arum pays Pac, 13m more after the ppv numbers are tallied and this does as expected which is around 400-500k buys, then Arum will be losing millions because their is no money supporting those wages.
I never said McGregor made 10m, but I find it amusing how you don’t believe his reports, yet when someone throws out fictitious numbers in boxing, you never question them.
The Greatest says
No one ever said the purse amount was $20M upfront.
Also every ppv is negotiated different with the cable providers on how much they get.
So when you throw “half” out there, you are just going off estimations.
Floyd-Pac wasn’t half by the way. Cable providers got 40%.
Also there are other factors that go into paying Pacquiao and Bradleys cut besides ppv, especially with a global star like Pacquiao.
The Greatest says
http://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-on-road-become-britains-top-earning-sports-star–103324
Go ahead and keep denying it D.
Joshua made $7M-$8M for this fight. Imagine when he starts facing the notable names. Your looking at $10M+ fight purses for his next fight, or the one after. And then that will grow massively.
If he keeps winning, hes gonna have massive ppvs in America and U.K at the same time.
d says
Yes, they did. The initial reports were 20m purse.
Also, every ppv is negotiated, but it is rarely different. Care to provide a source for your 40% delusion? I’ve never heard of a cable provider giving up more than 50% for a split. The old split big boxing events were doing was they would only take 40% which wasn’t long ago.
Yes, there are other factors that go into paying Pacquaio, which I provided above and you dismissed and ignored because they prove your claims to be false.
d says
Yeah, he made 7-8m, did it say 7-8m on the check? Did the bank have Joshua and his promoter roll a pair of dice to see who would get that last million? Hahahaha. The number keeps changing just like all of the stories you and boxing promoters tell. They lie. A lot. Yesterday it was in pounds, today in USD, tomorrow it will be in Euros. It never ends. Hahahahaha.
Fight Fan says
D’s full combustion continues
d says
On the cable-event promotion ppv split:
“According to a cable company representative, his call center has seen a big dip in people ordering pay-per-views over the last few years. He said when people do call to order they complain about the high prices. He said other reps have to tell the callers that it’s not the cable companies that set the prices but rather WWE, UFC and boxing. That is true, though every company raises its prices to try to offset declines in orders, and the price has to be high given the cable companies take a 60 percent cut. “It’s now to a point,” this person said, “where cable reps work as money managers of sorts, actually trying to talk people out of buying PPVs, worried they won’t be able to afford them on top of their current cable bill.” One person had a friend at a call center who actually told fans at times to save their money and wait for the DVD to come out. “Of course, in the end they can’t refuse people if they really want to buy. They can only strongly suggest not to.”
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/7/18/3167055/ufc-ppv-prices-directv-viacom-comcast
This was from 2012. In more recent years, the negotiating rate was 50-50 from what I’ve read for most ufc/boxing ppvs. This alleged 60-40 split in the promotions favor was one of your many pipe dreams and more importantly, even if it were true, certainly would not be the split for Pac-Bradley, as that event drew mild interest.
d says
Fight Fan’s realization that his sport is crumbling continues.
Fight Fan says
How’s it crumbling d? Highest ppv buys ever, biggest purses, global sport that actually sells out arenas in other countries.
d says
Hahaha. Past history.
The Greatest says
Floyd-Pac was pushing to only give 30% to the cable providers but it was negotiated at 40%
d says
The weakest’s source….The weakest.
It must be nice to manufacture statistics in your mind.
Fight Fan says
D at the end of the day the people reporting have more credentials than you and your keyboard. Floyd pac biggest fight ever and Floyd had the check to prove it. McLoser will never see that kind of money, or be undefeated lol.
d says
Uh, I don’t think you get any more in terms of credentials than his literal purse disclosed by the athletic commission. Hahaha. Also, I’d love to know if anyone who knows Bob Arum would agree that he has credentials. His word is as good as Pinocchio’s.
The rest of your rant is senseless.
The Greatest says
Reported today that Joshua-Fury will likely happen in the next 12 months and that each fighter would walk away with at least $15M.
UFC aint touching that. Most mma fighters dont make that much in a career.
Fight Fan says
Good stuff greatest, sounds like a good fight, wouldn’t be surprised if they put it in a huge venue too.
d says
“Reported today that Joshua-Fury will likely happen in the next 12 months and that each fighter would walk away with at least $15M.
UFC aint touching that. Most mma fighters dont make that much in a career.”
*Purses and all allegations researched and sourced by the weakest.