UFC Fight Night 18 on Fox Saturday night drew an overnight average of 2.43 million viewers with an 0.8 rating among adults 18-49 and a 3 share per Television By Numbers.
The event aired on Fox from 8:00pm-10:00pm ET with the main event between Anthony Johnson and Ryan Bader ending prior to 10:00pm. UFC on Fox drew stiff competition as it went up against the NBA in primetime with the San Antonio Spurs playing the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Dateline Mystery on NBC drew the most viewers overnight with 4.75 million and a 0.9 rating in the adult 18-49 demo. It also received a 3 share. The NBA game which started at 8:30pm ET drew 3.17 million with a 1.1 rating in the adult 14-49 and a 4 share.
UFC on Fox Ratings | |||
Overnights | Live + SD | ||
UFC on Fox 1 | 5,700,000 | ||
UFC on Fox 2 | 4,570,000 | ||
UFC on Fox 3 | 2,250,000 | 2,400,000 | |
UFC on Fox 4 | 2,360,000 | 2,400,000 | |
UFC on Fox 5 | 3,410,000 | 4,400,000 | |
UFC on Fox 6 | 3,770,000 | 4,220,000 | |
UFC on Fox 7 | 3,300,000 | 3,700,000 | |
UFC on Fox 8 | 2,040,000 | 2,380,000 | |
UFC on Fox 9 | 2,410,000 | 2,800,000 | |
UFC on Fox 10 | 2,550,000 | 3,220,000 | |
UFC on Fox 11 | 1,990,000 | 2,500,000 | |
UFC on Fox 12 | 2,020,000 | 2,500,000 | |
UFC on Fox 13 | 2,270,000 | 2,800,000 | |
UFC on Fox 14 | 2,820,000 | 3,049,000 | |
UFC on Fox 15 | 2,430,000 | 2,745,000 | |
UFC on Fox 16 | 2,290,000 | 2,800,000 | |
UFC on Fox 17 | 2,280,000 | 2,781,000 | |
UFC on Fox 18 | 2,430,000 | ||
Pretty good ratings considering the main event was not between two “brand name” opponents or for a title belt. However, in comparison to last January’s UFC show on Fox which pulled 2.82 million viewers and the previous 2 January events did much better (2013 – 3.77M overnight 2014 – 2.55M, 2014 – 2.82M). The NBA probably pulled away some of the target demo. The event is pretty comparable to the PBC event last weekend on the network which drew about 2.5M when all was said and done. MMA Payout will keep you posted on the updated ratings.
d says
The UFC still had a better rating and had a lower profile fight than PBC which is clearly in disaster mode with recent financial numbers that were released.
Cutch says
NBA on ABC probably hurt both UFC & PBC ratings, at least a little, they are only doing it for a short Winter run then back to just Sunday afternoons.
The Greatest says
UFC didn’t have to deal with the weather storm.
Boxing wins again.
Cutch says
Wouldn’t that mean more people would be home watching TV?
MMAPayout you really need to sort out these trolls on both sides of this pathetic MMA / Boxing debate.
d says
The weather was a benefit to PBC and boxing won nothing because PBC is going to crumble soon. They’ve already started selling off their big fights because they can’t afford the costs.
The Greatest says
Helped PBC? FOX and the major stations were broadcasting storm coverage instead of regular programming. So no it didnt help.
For some reason you think PBC is representative of all boxing when in reality its not.
Most of the most popular/p4p best boxers aren’t on PBC.
Canelo isnt on PBC. Ward isn’t. Kovalev isn’t. Klitschko isn’t. Fury isn’t. Joshua isn’t. GGG isn’t. Chocolito isn’t. Pacquiao isn’t. Bradley isn’t. Cotto isn’t. Marquez isn’t. Rigondeaux isn’t. Crawford isn’t. Lomachenko isn’t.
If you were to browse ESPNs top P4P list, none of them fight on PBC.
17 weight classes. 4 main belts in each weight class (not including regulars and interims etc..)
I did a quick scan and PBC fighters hold 10 out of 68 available belts. Thats about 15% of the titles are on PBC.
So no boxing isn’t just about PBC. Most of the exciting things in boxing are outside of PBC as of right now.
tops E says
Dw reality show lost a lot of value as posterboy dw favorite nortcutt,got beaten easy hahahaha
tops E says
Vanzant,northcutt, victims of ufc’s desperation to find a new star hahaha
Gil says
So the attendance, gate and ratings have declined. Also, the HW fight was drawing boos from the crowd, sage was exposed and showed he has no heart which probably derailed his star potential for good. This was a bad night all around for the UFC.
d says
“Helped PBC? FOX and the major stations were broadcasting storm coverage instead of regular programming. So no it didnt help.”
Only they didn’t- I know because I live in the Northeast and they were not showing storm coverage over live sporting events. Nice try idiot. Think I’m wrong? Go look at the tv viewership that night- more people watched network tv that night as opposed to last night and the UFC still had better overnights. HAHAHA!
“For some reason you think PBC is representative of all boxing when in reality its not.”
It is representative of boxing on the networks seeing how they are the only game in town. But even with PBC being a failure, that isn’t the only issue going on with boxing, where their ppv is also in the gutter with no hope of change in sight.
“Most of the most popular/p4p best boxers aren’t on PBC.”
Thurman, Lara, Garcia. They have plenty of good names, they just can’t draw big numbers. If you were to browse the majority of p4p polls, these guys would all be up there. The UFC headliners on FOX are almost never big draws. Look who fought Saturday night- Johnson and Bader- neither one has ever held a title in their life and neither is a big draw.
Just accept the reality that the sport of boxing is in the gutter and the UFC is destroying them in pretty much everything right now.
d says
“So the attendance, gate and ratings have declined. Also, the HW fight was drawing boos from the crowd, sage was exposed and showed he has no heart which probably derailed his star potential for good. This was a bad night all around for the UFC.”
Na, they haven’t declined, you are just cherry picking stats. This was a great night of fights unlike all the boring PBC network shows.
Also, Gil is Sampson.
d says
“Helped PBC? FOX and the major stations were broadcasting storm coverage instead of regular programming. So no it didnt help.”
Only they didn’t- I know because I live in the Northeast and they were not showing storm coverage over live sporting events. Nice try. Think I’m wrong? Go look at the tv viewership that night- more people watched network tv that night as opposed to last night and the UFC still had better overnights. HAHAHA!
“For some reason you think PBC is representative of all boxing when in reality its not.”
It is representative of boxing on the networks seeing how they are the only game in town. But even with PBC being a failure, that isn’t the only issue going on with boxing, where their ppv is also in the gutter with no hope of change in sight.
“Most of the most popular/p4p best boxers aren’t on PBC.”
Thurman, Lara, Garcia. They have plenty of good names, they just can’t draw big numbers. If you were to browse the majority of p4p polls, these guys would all be up there. The UFC headliners on FOX are almost never big draws. Look who fought Saturday night- Johnson and Bader- neither one has ever held a title in their life and neither is a big draw.
Just accept the reality that the sport of boxing is in the toilet and the UFC is destroying them in pretty much everything right now.
Gil says
I’m looking at the numbers this site posted for this event. 7th out of 7 attendance and gate for events at the prudential center and the previous January events did better in the ratings. The numbers are not the same or up, they are down. Therefore it is safe to say they declined. And why do you keep calling me sampson? Is this a new meme I have not heard of yet?
The Greatest says
Anthony Johnson is one of the UFC bigger names. Baders been there for years.
The eastcoast was playing weather coverage over live events. That was a big issue in D.C, where Garcia has a big market in.
Thurman, Lara, Garcia?
Thurman might lose to Porter, Lara is the best fighter on PBC, and Garcia needs to fight a big name.
Guerrero isnt a big name.
d says
“I’m looking at the numbers this site posted for this event. 7th out of 7 attendance and gate for events at the prudential center and the previous January events did better in the ratings”
Right, and you are cherry picking statistics in the process. The numbers were up from the last FOX show and you glossed over their analysis about the headliner which no one expected big numbers from. Go check out the previous Prudential Center headliners- I’ll give you the names that headlined them: GSP, Jones 2x, Machida, Faber, Evans. Do you grasp the significance of this?
Stop using aliases Sampson, and just admit who you are.
d says
“Anthony Johnson is one of the UFC bigger names. Baders been there for years.”
HAHA!! Delusions. Johnson is the furthest thing from a star in the UFC. His fights have never drawn well at all-same goes for Bader. The PBC network shows are much more high profile, yet still do less in viewership.
“The eastcoast was playing weather coverage over live events. That was a big issue in D.C, where Garcia has a big market in.”
Again, do you think if you continue to repeat this it will become true? No one I know had the storm coverage going over live events and where I am located we had 30 inches of snow and had a travel ban the following 2 days.
“Thurman might lose to Porter, Lara is the best fighter on PBC, and Garcia needs to fight a big name.”
Thurman and Lara are top 10 p4p in many rankings. Garcia is not far behind. Where do Anthony Johnson and Ryan Bader rank? No where near top 10 p4p.
Guerrero is a relatively big name for boxing-bigger than most of the UFC on FOX headliners.
d says
Whatever happened to your PBC will be hitting 5m viewers claim? HAHAHA!
E Tops says
I live in Virginia and my city was snowed in. I watched the entire pbc without interruption.
Wasn’t the fight night from a couple of weeks ago the second highest ever? So much for the declined argument.
Plus, being number 2 in the main demo is not bad. That’s all tv networks and advertisers care about.
Next Ufc on Fox will be Evans vs Rua from Florida. Should be a huge night.
The Greatest says
PBC did more viewers and had a better average than UFC on tv last year.
We posted every event, and you and Chris added the math wrong and thought the UFC did higher amd started celebrating in the streets.
I did the math, showed you were way off, and watched the parade go home and you and Chris disappear for two months.
Rumble Johnson is bigger in the ufc than guerrero is for boxing.
Guerrero could be done for.
Sergio says
I gotta question for everyone on here?..
-This is a bigger open end ratings question that Ive been wanting to ask for a while now but dose anyone know if or How the UFC track any of its newer fan base that has jumped on board in the last few years?…We saw the sport grow n peak from around 2005 to 2009 then flatten out after that but last few years we seen the rise of Rousey n McGregor etc. so it seems the numbers have improved So im just curious to know whats the percentage of new ufc fans that have jumped on board every year or last few years?..Anyone have any insight would be appreciated..
PS…if GSP were to come back..would anyone even care?..would he still move the ratings needle?..seems like he been gone for so long n the mma landscape has changed so much that he been buried n forgotten by time n the ever changingface of the mma landscape..what do you guys think?..plz let me know!
Gil says
So you are agreeing that the numbers mentioned are down you just have an excuse for why they are down, that’s fine. An observation that these numbers are down cannot be called cherry picking though. 1 is less than 20. OMG!!! You are cherry picking stats!!! Relax dude. Now I get the sampson thing, you think i’m this sampson person using a different name. What would ever possess you to say that to me? Do you have some sort of moral objection with someone doing this? This just seems so odd.
Gil says
I think it would be a pretty big event if GSP came back. I was reading some rumors the other day that it would happen. Maybe that’s the 200 surprise.
Sergio says
Thanks GII..well again with the mm landscape always changing(I could foresee Ronda leave for Hollywoood after her ufc contract expires n the Mcgregor hype train could also be derailed by RDA just like Northcut) with that being said UFC needs as many needle movers as they can get…So I could see the ufc doing an over exaggerated hype of GSP comeback but I feel he has been forgotten because now there are so much more exciting fighters n match ups happening now that no one wants to pay to see GSP grind out a boring 15 minute decision
JUST MY OPNION
BrainSmasher says
GSP would still appeal to his demo and Canadian fans who have started to lose interest without a local to root for. To the rest of the MMA community, you are right. The sport has moved on and have new mega stars. When you factor in GSP popularity was mostly among Canadian in a concentrated region. He was never a star like Rousey or even Conor. They got mainstream attention and had appeal that was more than just a few providences. Both reached multiple countries and from coast to coast. GSP coming back woukd strength the UFC schedule of events giving the another good seller. If he was able to have success he could possibly capitalize on the mainstream attention brought to the UFC by the other two. But I feel he ran from the UFC because he knew his days were over. It sounds like he wants to come back to cherry pick fights that favor him which makes him a bully imo!
I don’t think Rousey will leave for Hollywood. I think people are misinformed about her potential there and her loss opened people’s eyes to that. Holly wood wants the baddest girl in the fight game who is some what marketable. It is that position at the top that is of value not the girl. That position opened doors for Gina and now Rousey. But even having better acting skills and looks than Rousey. Gina hasn’t exactly made it in Hollywood. But I can see Rousey quitting fighting. She seems like a sore loser and a front runner. If she can’t be champ she could take her ball and go home. She has the money not to ever work again and be fine. If she did this I personally would lose respect for her. There is more to being a fighter than just winning or beating people up. If you quit just because there is 1-2 people who have actually put up a fight then you were never a fighter. You were a skilled bully who quit when it finally become a fight. Hopefully she learns to love the competition and the sport and not just when she has everyone out matched. If the men quit who couldn’t win without getting hit or challenged. There wouldn’t be anyone left. If fighting was just beating people up then everyone would do it. We will see what Rousey does!
d says
“PBC did more viewers and had a better average than UFC on tv last year.
We posted every event, and you and Chris added the math wrong and thought the UFC did higher amd started celebrating in the streets.
I did the math, showed you were way off, and watched the parade go home and you and Chris disappear for two months.
Rumble Johnson is bigger in the ufc than guerrero is for boxing.
Guerrero could be done for.”
PBC has done fewer avg viewers overall and much worse in the coveted demo than the UFC on both the networks and cable. Bellator beats them on Spike. They are going out of business soon and going to self destruct.
Who is we? Are you plural? Also, what are you talking about? Making up numbers again? You can’t do math because you can’t count, you are making up a fictitious argument and findings once again, because you enjoy to lie. I never disappeared from here, you did after I owned you for the 1 millionth time.
Johnson is not as big of a draw that Guerrero is, and even if he was, he isn’t even close to the ranking that Thurman/Garcia/Lara are.
d says
“So you are agreeing that the numbers mentioned are down you just have an excuse for why they are down, that’s fine. An observation that these numbers are down cannot be called cherry picking though. 1 is less than 20. OMG!!! You are cherry picking stats!!! Relax dude. Now I get the sampson thing, you think i’m this sampson person using a different name. What would ever possess you to say that to me? Do you have some sort of moral objection with someone doing this? This just seems so odd.”
So you are admitting that the numbers are up from the previous UFC event. You just like cherry picking statistics and creating arguments that fight into your ridiculous argument. You also just proved you either can’t read or do not know what cherry picked statistics are.
Stop denying it Sampson.
d says
Sergio is clearly another individual using multiple aliases, but with one of your personalities, can you explain to me how McGregor is hype? He just ko’d the p4p best fighter in the world in 13 seconds. He also beat the no.4 fighter in his weight class with Mendes who was a stylistically bad matchup for him. That isn’t to say he can’t lose, but clearly he is not hype.
If GSP came back right now and fought for the title or another big named fighter he would get at least 900k buys and likely a million. And why would it be an exaggerated hype for him? He won 10 title fights.
The Greatest says
D people can simply pull back the threads and see you and your alias Chris were gone for awhile after you threw your eggs in a basket, spouted off and then got thoroughly embarrassed.
Funny that after your 4-8 week hiatus both you and Chris reappeared within minutes of each other.
d says
You are very ignorant to reality. First off, anyone can back into the history here and see all of your absurd and contradictory posts like PBC getting 5m viewers or UFC ppv predictions that are always dead wrong. Literally everything you state on here is either a lie or delusional theory that is debunked later on.
As for my alleged hiatus, first off, seeing how you are pointing out that you can go back into the history here, you clearly didn’t bother to do it yourself considering you just gave a month date range where I allegedly disappeared as well as Chris. Clearly you weren’t very well aware of what was going on at that time because you were likely annoying someone somewhere, but the reason why I wasn’t posting for like TWO WEEKS was because mmapayout started banning people’s comments and all of mine were being censored. Notice Sal doesn’t post here anymore. Also, I’m not Chris. I only have one name I use on here. Nice try Nancy Drew.
You embarrass yourself every time you post with your delusions of grandeur. You literally just fabricate numbers out of thin air then when people call you out on it, you just start up another conversation of nonsensical lying.
Sergio says
Hey d this is Sergio well I don’t know who you think I am but I can assure you Im not him..I usually don’t like to post on here cuz weirdos like you turn my questions into a bashing session..but to answer your question You are correct Mcgregor is the real deal..guess what I meant to say is that Id really hate to see his hypetrain get derailed by taking on sucha tall order in RDA but that’s Conor for you..he is crazy n id Love nothing more that to see him starch RDA in the time he mentioned..as far as GSP I say exaggerated hype because GSP has been labeled by the UFC as the most dominant fighter ever And while he may have won his last 10 fights he is also the most boring champion UFC’s ever had.. in the gym he is what we refer to as a sleeper or snoozer fighter meaning he can’t finish fights and because of that that’s why I think no one will kick up too much fuss about him coming back especially now that there are so many exciting match ups and exciting fighters to watch..Hell Ben Rothwell has been a B level gatekeeper fighter for a long time and now he is just smashing through the heavyweight division… there is just too many exciting storylines in MMA and exciting fighters to watch to even pay attention to GSP right now..just my opinion d n thanks for answering!!…BRAIN SMASHER!!…You are always the Real Deal!!..I always appreciate your comments and I always look forward to reading your posts.. your comments about GSP were spot on and definitely gave me something to think about.. as far as Rhonda leaving to Hollywood well she has definitely broke into Hollywood more than Gina ever has and with all her new film projects in the works it definitely opens her up to a lot of other potential options..(i will elaborate more on that later tonight).. as far as the second half of your comments on Rousey’s fight ethics well we all know there is no fighters rule book on ethics and how they should act and even if there was a book very few would even follow it. We know that MMA fighters are some of the lowest paid athletes especially now with the new Reebok deal so when fighters get the opportunities to make movies or even make more money elsewhere they need to cash in on those opportunities ( like Ben Henderson’s recent signing to Bellator) thanks Brain Smasher,Gll n d for your comments
Sergio says
Hey d this is Sergio well I don’t know who you think I am but I can assure you Im not him..I usually don’t like to post on here cuz weirdos like you turn my questions into a bashing session..but to answer your question You are correct Mcgregor is the real deal..guess what I meant to say is that Id really hate to see his hypetrain get derailed by taking on sucha tall order in RDA but that’s Conor for you..he is crazy n id Love nothing more that to see him starch RDA in the time he mentioned..as far as GSP I say exaggerated hype because GSP has been labeled by the UFC as the most dominant fighter ever And while he may have won his last 10 fights he is also the most boring champion UFC’s ever had.. in the gym he is what we refer to as a sleeper or snoozer fighter meaning he can’t finish fights and because of that that’s why I think no one will kick up too much fuss about him coming back especially now that there are so many exciting match ups and exciting fighters to watch..Hell Ben Rothwell has been a B level gatekeeper fighter for a long time and now he is just smashing through the heavyweight division… there is just too many exciting storylines in MMA and exciting fighters to watch to even pay attention to GSP right now..just my opinion d n thanks for answering!!…BRAIN SMASHER!!…You are always the Real Deal!!..I always appreciate your comments and I always look forward to reading your posts.. your comments about GSP were spot on and definitely gave me something to think about.. as far as Rhonda leaving to Hollywood well she has definitely broke into Hollywood more than Gina ever has and with all her new film projects in the works it definitely opens her up to a lot of other potential options..(i will elaborate more on that later tonight).. as far as the second half of your comments on Rousey’s fight ethics well we all know there is no fighters rule book on ethics and how they should act and even if there was a book very few would even follow it. We know that MMA fighters are some of the lowest paid athletes especially now with the new Reebok deal so when fighters get the opportunities to make movies or even make more money elsewhere they need to cash in on those opportunities ( like Ben Henderson’s recent signing to Bellator) thanks Brain Smasher,Gll n d for your comments
d says
Sergio at first posts to himself using different aliases, now he just double posts to attempt to annoy people. Nice try.
Also, GSP was never declared the most dominant champion ever by the UFC, despite the fact that one could absolutely argue he was- he is 2nd in title defenses to only Silva who fought against inferior competition.
The karate class you take with the little kids were referring to nap time and how certain children snore. GSP’s last 10 fights weren’t boring, you just don’t know what you were watching.
Also, on a side note- Rothwell is smashing people now because he found out how to use peds effectively.
Lastly, your analysis about flim movie pay vs fight pay is very far off as well. Rousey makes a fraction in movies of what she does in fighting. She will likely never make what she is making now as a fighter in Hollywood. Only difference is one is clearly more hazardous than the other. Why do you think Quinton Jackson went back to fighting?
Chris says
PBC almost out of money it looks like
https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/437dl6/waddell_reeds_investment_in_haymon_82_mil/
BrainSmasher says
Sergio, Rousey has broken into bigger films but you have to look at her roles in those movies. In Entourage she played herself and in the other movies she played side kicks and small roles. Even in her upcoming Roadhouse movie they have reduced her role. She hasn’t been tested with much speaking or acting or as a lead actress. Gina has been a lead actress and has been tested. She has a lot of speaking and acting in her career. She wasn’t given the luxury of big films like Rousey but she has proven to be a WAY better actress to this point. Rousey is still getting by playing herself even when they gover he a character name. She isn’t acting just playing herself and doing fight scenes.
If she leaves MMA because acting takes off I can understand that. But if she quits MMA of she loses a rematch to Holm like she claims. I would lose a lot of respect for her. If you take your ball and go home and leave a career and a sport because there is one girl who has your number. That’s not a very admirable trait.
Sergio says
D…WoW! you are one mean keyboard warrior huh?…Dang! why do you got so many angry post?!!…you cant make it with the ladies or even cut it fighting in a real gym so you do your fighting behind a keyboard huh?.Well at least you know you can win these “fights”…good for you D
Sergio says
Hey Brain Smasher… good comments on Rousey but a couple things that we need to keep on mind are. Yes her early roles will definitely be small roles,side kicks,one dimensional characters and those are good starting places for someone who is a professional fighter.. that’s how Schwarzenegger The Rock etc made their start… her acting career is still very new and I’m sure she knows she has lots to learn and I’m sure she’s also getting lots of career acting advice and insight.. her SNL stint was entertaining but painful to watch but she learned lots… as far as her leaving MMA?.. I could see her using her acting career as an excuse to leave MMA because maybe she can’t be the champ again? Or maybe she can’t handle the training camps or new competition? Either way I don’t think we would get an honest answer from her if she were to leave to Hollywood
Sergio says
Hey Brain Smasher… good comments on Rousey but a couple things that we need to keep on mind are. Yes her early roles will definitely be small roles,side kicks,one dimensional characters and those are good starting places for someone who is a professional fighter.. that’s how Schwarzenegger The Rock etc made their start… her acting career is still very new and I’m sure she knows she has lots to learn and I’m sure she’s also getting lots of career acting advice and insight.. her SNL stint was entertaining but painful to watch but she learned lots… as far as her leaving MMA?.. I could see her using her acting career as an excuse to leave MMA because maybe she can’t be the champ again? Or maybe she can’t handle the training camps or new competition? Either way I don’t think we would get an honest answer from her if she were to leave to Hollywood
d says
Sergio, amazing how someone who trains with little kids things he is training at a real gym. Delusions.
Sergio says
Hahaha!..Good one D..you def won that round!..Dont let Sergio bullie you k?..keep it coming ya keyboard scraper!! 😉
d says
Did you just sign in with the wrong name? Haha. Go back to dominating your dojo of 10 year olds.
BrainSmasher says
I can see Rousey using that for a reason to leave also. Her dovision is going to get a lot better. When facing other athletes she will need to be well rounded. Whether she developed her skills or not is yet to be seen. But she will never have it as easy as she has. She will still get an easy win here and there for a while. But gradually even her wins will be hard fought and she will have to deal with a loss here and there. That is the reality of real Mma as we see it in the men’s. Maybe her Judo career hasn’t prepared her for the life of a fighter(I dont think of only beating people up as being a fighter) or maybe her early success and now reputation has made it to where a normal career in fighting has spoiled her. But I will say if she wants to end on a high note. As bad as her loss was. She will never be as big as she is now. As she has tough fought wins and loses her mystic will gradually go to the level of other legends of the sport but not mainstream megastar. But for the safe of the sport I hope she fights and eventually passes the torch to other fighters. That is what I call a real fighter. Be tough, don’t back down from a challenge, and go out on your shield and pass that torch when your day is done.
Gil says
So I make a comment partially about the decline in attendance and gate from past prudential center events and the overnight ratings decline from past January events. You deny reality by telling me these numbers did not decline. Your defense after denial is then to bring up a separate comparison. Which is how “the numbers” from UFC on Fox 18 are up from UFC on Fox 17. Besides the fact that this is a separate comparison from the obvious declines I mentioned you end up being the one who clearly cherry picked stats, LOL.
Definition of cherry pick: selectively choose (the most beneficial items) from what is available.
Only the ratings were up. Both the attendance and gate were down from 17. In making your separate comparison you selectively chose the most beneficial number from what was available. Now that you have been educated are you ever going to get around to explaining your fixation on accusing others of having many names? You think you are better or something because as you told thegreatest you only use one name here? I’m fascinated by your obsession.
d says
You are using this event and saying the ratings went down while ignoring the fact that the ratings were up from the previous show. There is no trend to back up your claims other than simply using January shows and Prudential shows which if you bothered for a second to review who fought on those shows, you would realize how absurd it is to rant about how bad of a night this was for the UFC.
When you compare Jones, GSP, Faber, etc title fights to Ryan Bader vs Anthony Johnson, and proclaim they are on par, you are just embarrassing yourself and proving you either can’t comprehend what the definition of cherry picking is- which you provided, or you are completely delusional. In your world comparing Ryan Bader fights to Jones, GSP fights are not cherry picked stats. Hahaha.
What is your fascination with using multiple aliases to ignorantly rant on here?
Gil says
Hi again
Denial of reality, excuses, and cherry picking stats when bringing up your separate comparison. Just a small sampling of your stumbles. But now to make things just perfect for me the ratings were down from 17. So go ahead and, bring up yet another unrelated comparison, another cherry picked stat, to make up for this blowing up in your face, LOL. It won’t matter.
d says
Hi again,
Delusions of grandeur in comparing GSP/Jones/Cerrone/Faber title fights to Bader vs . Johnson.
Do you even realize why this makes you look so pathetic and desperate to grasp any straw that proves there is a decline in interest?
Oh, let me guess, the headliners are an unrelated comparison. Haha. Dunce.
Gil says
The cherry picker in chief does not realize I was never making the argument that there was a “decline in interest.” He made that up in order to have something to try to disprove because the declines I pointed out were fact. He was trying to beat up on a straw man and failed twice over when his own cherry picked stat was wrong, LOL.
d says
You sure did. What else would your point have been? You are just a boxing fanboy. Go defend PBC some more while they continue tanking into the ground. You are just mad your sport is disintegrating while mma is far more popular these days. You try to cherry pick statistics to fall into your absurd argument and it blew up in your face when I pointed out how ridiculous it was to compare GSP/Jones to Johnson or Bader.
Sampson, come out of the closet.
Gil says
The cherry picker in chief now wants me to spoon feed him the answers. My point was my opinion of this event, which was crystal clear if you could read without being so easily triggered. Here’s a hint, it’s not even solely based on any numbers. That’s part of why this argument is so funny to me. You have largely been arguing against a straw man you created. Probably because your reading comprehension is so poor. To top it off you might be the first person I ever ran into that lost a point against his own straw man after your cherry picked stat was wrong. You set him up and he dropped you, LOL.
d says
The lord of cherry picking is now in denial about what he said.
Your point was cherry picking numbers from this event. Comparing ppv stars who fought at the Prudential Center and comparing their numbers to a non title fight involving two fighters who have never drawn well which is flat out delusional.
“7th out of 7 attendance and gate for events at the prudential center and the previous January events did better in the ratings.”
Your words, not mine.
Maybe if YOUR reading comprehension wasn’t so poor, you wouldn’t appear to be a fool every time you posted a comment who continues to contradict himself. Let me know when you want to accept your own statements and admit how insane it is to compare those past fights to this fight. Maybe then you will finally realize why you are cherry picking statistics and looking like a total dunce in the process. HAHAHA!!
Gil says
Well that was just sad on multiple levels. The cherry picker in chief aka muh aliases is now trying to tell me what my point was. He thinks he’ll somehow be successful at convincing me of this. This is even after I gave him an easy hint as to where my point could be found. I’ll give you another hint. It was in the earliest comment of mine. The quote you pulled was not even close. That quote was part of a defense of my use of the word decline. Which is likely why you only quoted one line from that comment and not the quote in it’s full context. Either you want to further prove you have poor reading comprehension or you just want to remain defiant and get the last word in the face of a failed argument. So try again, I will give you another chance to find the answer.
d says
More contradictions from the professional cherry picker “Gil” aka Sampson, who is in denial of what he said, pathetically attempting to angle his argument and deny what he stated.
After I called you out for attempting to compare GSP/Jones, etc to Johnson-Bader, you realized what you said was delusional and now you are trying to back track.
Go try to spread more PBC propaganda. It’s amusing watching them burn up in flames while you attempt to spin their numbers.
Gil says
Defiance it is. What a surprise!
Muh Aliases tries to tell me what my point was. His evidence is a quote presented in a dishonest and totally out of context way. What does he do when this is pointed out to him and his efforts totally fail? Ignore all of it and just repeat his debunked attacks on a straw man, LOL. Just like when his cherry picked stat turned out to be wrong yet he pressed on like the cornerstone of his attack on his straw man argument didn’t just go up in flames. This is how most of our argument has gone. He can’t deal with the way his cherry picked stat was wrong or how his points and lack of reading comprehension were exposed and how his misleading use of quotes was shot down. He’s just going to keep ignoring all of it in an attempt to save face. In his world if he stays in denial and gets the last word then he can feel better about how things went. I can practically write his response to this for him at this point, LOL.
d says
“Gil”s doing everything he can to back track from his statements. He has to because he knows how delusional his comments were. He compared GSP/Jones to Bader and refuses to acknowledge it, all the while attempting to spin PBC numbers because he is a propagandist who can’t accept the reality which debunks his comments. He denies his own quotes and refuses to address them after posting them. This is getting very amusing.