MMA Fighting reports further on the Jon Jones drug test and how the news of his positive test came to light. The Nevada State Athletic Commission remains a little vague on the reasons it tested Jones for a recreational drug not banned outside of competition.
Bob Bennett on why Jones was tested for a recreational drug via MMA Fighting:
“That was a bit of an anomaly that will be addressed [at the next NAC hearing on] Jan. 12. It was not a report requested by the NAC. It appears to have been an administrative oversight.”
The NSAC learned of the drug test failure administered on December 4th on December 23rd according to commission chairman Francisco Aguilar. The results were sent to the UFC “around that day” according to the MMA Fighting article. Aguilar was not clear when the UFC informed Jones of the test.
Jones took another “out of competition” test on December 18th and passed although he was not tested for cocaine on that day per the article although the below report seems to reveal otherwise.
A public request for Jones’ December 4th test was made which may have precipitated the reveal.
Kevin Iole has tweeted the results:
Here is a copy of Jon Jones passed drug test on 12.18.14. Note T/E ratio on this date of 0.19/1 pic.twitter.com/iy1mIghjZs
— Kevin Iole (@KevinI) January 7, 2015
Payout Perspective:
According to the NSAC, which follows the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) code, “in competition” is considered 12 hours before competition and the time needed to collect test samples afterward. Thus, the NSAC will not punish Jones because his test did not violate the rules of the NAC. Of course, Jones could be subject to the UFC Code of Conduct. The UFC “may” impose discipline for Jones’ use of cocaine. The UFC code is subject to interpretation and it is still is up to the UFC to decide whether or not it may issue discipline. Per MMA Fighting, the UFC considers Jones’ failed test December 5th a violation of the code of conduct but is considering Jones checking into drug rehabilitation as perhaps a mitigating factor in determining discipline.
There are obvious issues with the drug testing and subsequent revelations by the NSAC. The first question is why was Jones tested for a drug not banned for “out of competition” use. Not sure how much will come to light during the NSAC hearing on January 12th but it should provide for some interesting explanations.
Don King used to provide that Yayo all day for his fighters… ahh the good ol fun days!
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I find it interesting that his T/E ratio s different in both tests and not normal for a clean person. Lucky the commission has a 6-1 allowance. Looks like he is just over a 5-1 ratio here and the other test he was 3-1. Also both tests show a low testosterone level which suggest he is taking something to counter elevated Testosterone or he has recently went off a PE and isn’t producing enough naturally yet. This goes to show that just about everyone is cheating and it isn’t hard to do if you have the money to keep testing yourself and monitor your levels. Basically Jones was vet close to testing positive for elevated T?E ratio and it wasn’t even due to elevated Testosterone. It would be interesting to know how many fighters levels are suspicious like this.
Also wouldn’t be surprised to see Jones sue the NVSAC for this. He was not supposed to be tested for that drug and was. Then they went and made it public causing him a lot of damages. I bet he could own their ass for this. Also what is it with “Confidential Test Report”? How is that confidential if it is made public? lol
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7/7510649/jon-jones-out-of-competition-drug-tests-all-show-abnormal-hormone. Cir testing should be next per wada rule that commission claim to follow
wow, so for all the hype of JJ, and the supposed best pfp fighter, and the highest ppv draw the UFC gets a shellacking in the press with this guy! Its just one more thing after another. So for a shit gate, and a fictional ppv of 750k according to the Fuhrer Dana White, John Jones destroys decades of work done buy decent mma fighters trying to legitimize the sport. Other sports have decades and decades of a foundation MMA doesn’t. More to come
Smelldaqueef back at it. Bob Arum’s got him running all over the place here.
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I completely agree. I’m no endocrinologist but those hormone levels look very suspicious. It just goes to show how rampant cheating is. Like someone said about cycling, “it’s not a clean playing field, but it’s a level playing field…everyone is doing it”.
Jones is definitely cheating. Clearly using a masking agent.
Pink Pig face Dana Interview… Hypocrite: http://youtu.be/cRd1pE4Ttto
I agree Diego. I also don’t have a problem with it. During the 80’s with the side effects of steroids it made sense to go on this witch hunt. Now with the positive results and lack of serious side effects with responsible use and doctor supervision that the athletes have access to. This hunt just doesn’t make sense. They all are doing it so you cant even call it cheating anymore. No one is being cheated so how can you be a cheater? All I care about is that they have a testing process that forces the fighters to put time and effort into getting medical assistance and doing it safely. Without any test at all. Guys would be using the most effective and least healthy stuff while in locker rooms rather than having a doctor atleast monitor their levels.
They aren’t all doing it at all. Look at how many times Brandon Vera lost to someone who was juiced out of their mind. It is complete bullshit because there are fighters that are clean. Plus it is dangerous to their opponent. Maybe if they both agreed to cheat ahead of time, you would have a valid point, but if one person is clean and the other isn’t, this isn’t a very safe practice.
How do you know Vera is clean? That’s the same false logic baseball fans and even experts claimed. Claiming pitchers didn’t use roids because they traditionally didn’t want muscle and didn’t lift weights. Yet when results come out it was pitchers and even small and fast stolen base guys. I believe the first person caught was a stolen base guy. Just because Vera doesn’t look the part doesn’t mean he is clean.
Now I do believe there is some who are clean. Younger fighters who are very talented have no reason to use anything. Its when they get older and look at the land scape and realize they aren’t good enough or are in over their head in their next fight. To be honest it would be stupid to be in a position like Chael was in where there is a ton of fame and fortune to be had if he wins but knowing he cant and his time in running out, it is stupid not to use anything he can. There is to much to gain to just go through the motions and get your ass kicked and fade into obscurity. Now a guy like Jones doesn’t make sense because we seen him beat everyone and have never seen a reason for him to need anything. But he knows he has a reason and it is likely struggles he had in the gym that showed he is vulnerable.
From my experience when I was training and around pros. I was surprised at how fast everyone turned to PE’s as if there was no choice if they wanted to fight. BUt at the lower levels people aren’t tested. SO what are the odds of making it through a gauntlet of roiders to ever get to the UFC as a clean fighter? SLIM and NONE!
LIke I said there might be some who are clean. How much success they have is hard to say. But I couldn’t tell you one who is clean. Even GSP claimed to be clean by was in cahoots with the testing agency and was trying to manipulate the system to keep using PE’s imo. As the competition closed in on him he needed his edge and when his scam was denied by Hendricks he took his ball and went home. There is only guys we hope are clean and that’s it.
I don’t know definitively and I don’t believe I said with 100% certainty that he is clean. I believe he is, but I’m not positive. I would bet anything guys like Serra, Penn, Weidman,Soszynski are. I’m not positive though. The truth is though, you just agreed with me with the fact that you know there are fighters who are clean.
Also, you should do some better investigative work. Hendricks lied about that because everyone knows he is cheating. GSP wasn’t in cahoots with the testing agency which was a non profit facilitator (VADA)overseen by Margaret Goodman. Not to mention, just so you know a facilitator does not conduct the testing, they just organize the entire thing and set up what is tested for. The labs they all use are the same labs. There would be no problem with tampering. The fact that GSP wanted his blood randomly tested by a lab with credibility goes to show you he is clean. Hendricks wants nothing to do with random blood testing. He would never pass it.
Also, just so you know, when baseball players use peds, it is not something of danger to the opposing teams. They don’t have to worry about being violently concussed. When a professional fighter uses peds, it is very dangerous for obvious reasons, especially if they are fighting someone who is clean.
I hope you seriously don’t think Serra is clean. At one time maykbe. But he is clearly using roids since he has retired. I would believe Penn is clean but again I wouldn’t have thought Jones was on Coke.
As for Hendricks. He offered to use a stricter and more reputable agency WADA. GSP was clearly dealing with VADA I some way. They had him on their site and there was a clear relationship going on. Also they have Victor Conte working for them who is clearly testing fighters samples to make sure everything is out of their system to beat the drug tests. Ys they may organize it but they also can tell a fighter when he is tested and make it very easy for one fighter to avoid a positive test and not the other. It would also be up to them to report who failed and didn’t and that’s if they don’t have pull or the ability to tamper with the samples. It would have been stupid for Hendricks to agree to the conflict of interest GSP proposed. When Hendricks suggested WADA, GSP wanted no part of it which was very fishy in everyones mind if he truly wanted both fighters to be clean.
There was no relationship between GSP and VADA, just because you continue to repeat the same thing, does not give your claims any validity. VADA is run by Margaret Goodman who was the head ringside physician for the NSAC some years back and has a ton of integrity. Again, they run a non profit facilitator. Also, your angle that GSP was on their website is a joke. Every major fighter who gets tested through VADA is on their website. They have Ben Askren, Manny Pacquaio, BJ Penn and a ton of other fighters including ROY FUCKING NELSON!!! Yes, fat bastard himself is on there. I bet he slipped them a doughnut to cheat on his test. Hahaha.
Hendricks is a blatant cheater. He wanted no part of either test. He didn’t want random blood drawn and when the threat of random blood being drawn entered the picture, he lost his title and didn’t look a fraction as good as he did when he fought GSP with his HE MAN strength. Watch his earlier ufc fights when he was getting beat by fighters like Story, Pierce and Koscheck. He looked so mediocre and looked physically soft, then out of no where he turns into a jacked up machine ko’ing fighters who were never ko’d before like Fitch easily, shutting down GSP’s takedowns, something NO ONE ever did. Amazing how quick his transitioning was, yet when he fights Lawler the 2nd time, his reaction time is slowed drastically and he gasses badly in the 3rd rd.
By the way, those fighters like Serra I mentioned are retired. I was referring to when they were fighting. Regardless though, look at Serra when he was in his early 20s, he was always cut. The only difference now is he weighs more which happens because your metabolism slows down as you get older. I’m not 100% sure he is clean now as I wasn’t when he fought, but I doubt he is taking anything.
Except Hendricks offered to to be tested by WADA. You can also keep saying he was ducking the test it doesn’t make it true. GSP should have called his bluff if that’s what you believe. I do t care who runs VADA. They have no credibility in my eyes and they have latched on to a few fighters to do their bidding and get a presence in the sport. There’s was no reason in the world for GSP to refuse WADA.
He offered a lot of things but never went through with them. GSP DID go through with the VADA testing and passed.
No, I said he was ducking the test, because he literally ducked the test. We have evidence of this. He said initially he would take the VADA test and then changed his mind shortly after coming up with lame excuses as to why he didn’t want to take it like GSP is connected with VADA, because his photo was on the site, which is amusing because if Hendricks took the test, his photo would also be on the site. Again, you can keep saying VADA has no credibility, but your evidence is because I said so. In other words, you must be a big fan of Hendricks, which is why you will continue to defend this silly position. I guess you believe Roy Nelson is one of those guys they latched onto who they are helping cheat.
Another thing is the eye test fails for Hendricks and passes for GSP. Hendricks results and physique have altered frequently and it is clear as day. GSP, not at all other than some more decisions which were clear wins later in his career when he was fighting tougher competition. Go look at Hendricks in his fight against GSP/Condit/Kampmann and then look at his fight against Rick F’ing Story or his last fight against Lawler where he gassed at the end of the 3rd round badly. It is clear as day that he is a cheater.