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By: johnny black

johnny black — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:14:37 +0000

fedor only has one fight left on his strikeforce contract

By: Brain Smasher

Brain Smasher — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 23:49:22 +0000

I assumed Junkie was getting them info from SF like they do press releases. If im wrong then my beef is with Junkie then. I dont see why they use DVR numbers for SF and not for UFC. It is not the norm for them to use those numbers. I agree with what Diego said. But DVR helps the UFC with advertisers too. They might not be as meaningful as SFs due to no advertisers. But we are talking success of each show based on ratings. Lots of people DVR’ed the UFC just as there was SF. Thats why these numbers are reported anyway is to gage their success. So why is 2 different sets of numbers used? To me is seems Junkie or who ever is at fault is purposely misleading people.

By: Jose Mendoza

Jose Mendoza — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:35:20 +0000

Brain:

Like Diego said above, the numbers which include DVR numbers weren’t released by Strikeforce or Showtime, they were reported by MMAJunkie through their “sources”.

There was no ratings PR sent out by Showtime or Strikeforce. The main numbers I am reporting are the ones by Meltzer, who has his own independent sources.

By: Diego

Diego — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:33:55 +0000

And I’m not sure those numbers were released in order to make Spike look like liars, or if they were even released by SF and Showtime. There are always differing estimates of ratings early on and networks will grab the numbers that suit them. I agree that Meltzer’s numbers are probably the most accurate. I don’t know how he gets them, but he gets them.

By: Diego

Diego — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:31:22 +0000

Brain,

I’m not sure it was SF who released the numbers but I could be wrong. Showtime does not sell ad space, so they don’t care if their subscribers watch the show live or DVR it or watch it later on Showtime On Demand, as long as their subscribers get value from the show they’re happy. They know those subscribers won’t cancel Showtime.

Spike sells ad space, and companies know that anyone who DVRd the show is skipping the commercials, so Spike has to care about that difference because their advertisers care.

By: Brain Smasher

Brain Smasher — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:56:01 +0000

Jose. Im not commenting on numbers being good or bad. My beef is with them using numbers most people dont use. Thats the DVR replay numbers. Spike had a press release with SF numbers. SF counters with “rarely used” numbers to make it look like Spike lied. When UFC ratings are reported they rarely ever use DVR numbers. When they are mentioned its used along side regular tv ratings. DVR numbers are ALWAYS higher. Throwing them out there when few are using them is to mislead people into thinking the numbers were better than they were. Not that they were bad to begin with. Even worse as it seems it was done in response to the Spike release.

By: edi

edi — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 01:32:33 +0000

I think SF should pay Kelsey a consulting fee for giving them sound and informed advice. He pretty much wills Coker to step up and take his biz from a provincial identity to the place it has the opportunity to be. Coker needs to let somebody w/ some nuts run with it-I think he is afraid of the success SF has the potential to become at this moment.

By: Jose Mendoza

Jose Mendoza — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 04:38:07 +0000

mmaguru:

That 700K viewer peak is in fact correct. Gina vs Cyborg (which did great numbers for showtime) peaked at 856K.