Comments on: MMAterial Facts (03/17/10): Details On Huerta's Contract Demands http://mmapayout.com/2010/03/mmaterial-facts-031710-details-on-huertas-contract-demands/ Thu, 24 May 2012 02:59:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brain Smasher http://mmapayout.com/2010/03/mmaterial-facts-031710-details-on-huertas-contract-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-392 Brain Smasher Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:39:11 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=8957#comment-392 Caidel The guy you claim is the 38th ranked fighter at 155 is asking for a quarter of a million. That makes him a waste of time in my book. He hasnt beat anyone good. Clay is not that good. He got perfect match ups to look good.Clay got killed by the much improved but over rated Florian who by no accident is being guided around all the wrestlers of the division because he has name value. Being a touhg punching bag is Huerta's lone strength. Thats why he cant beat anyone just survive. Clinging to a split decision verses Maynard doenst help your cause. There was nothing split about it. A blind judge dont make Huerta more talented. He got out classed. Forget the fact he didnt face the good guys of the division who would run right over him. Penn, Sancez, Sherk, Tyson, Edgar, Florian again, and even Stevenson. He would probabley get wasted by a has been Gomi. Yet this the guy who is wanting more money than guys like all but 5-10 guys in the UFC dispite never headlining an event or beating a top contender. I refer to this as Tito Syndrome. If you are not very good and you know it and others dont. You better cash in before you fight and get exposed. Tito would holdout everytime he won a fight. I hope Bellator didnt waste that much money on him. Caidel

The guy you claim is the 38th ranked fighter at 155 is asking for a quarter of a million. That makes him a waste of time in my book. He hasnt beat anyone good. Clay is not that good. He got perfect match ups to look good.Clay got killed by the much improved but over rated Florian who by no accident is being guided around all the wrestlers of the division because he has name value. Being a touhg punching bag is Huerta’s lone strength. Thats why he cant beat anyone just survive. Clinging to a split decision verses Maynard doenst help your cause. There was nothing split about it. A blind judge dont make Huerta more talented. He got out classed. Forget the fact he didnt face the good guys of the division who would run right over him. Penn, Sancez, Sherk, Tyson, Edgar, Florian again, and even Stevenson. He would probabley get wasted by a has been Gomi.

Yet this the guy who is wanting more money than guys like all but 5-10 guys in the UFC dispite never headlining an event or beating a top contender.

I refer to this as Tito Syndrome. If you are not very good and you know it and others dont. You better cash in before you fight and get exposed. Tito would holdout everytime he won a fight. I hope Bellator didnt waste that much money on him.

]]> By: Jeremy http://mmapayout.com/2010/03/mmaterial-facts-031710-details-on-huertas-contract-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-391 Jeremy Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:26:54 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=8957#comment-391 Heurta was looking for a deal that was in line with main event fighters in the UFC, I would guess this contract is loaeded with extra money or at least the potential for extra money. Heurta was looking for a deal that was in line with main event fighters in the UFC, I would guess this contract is loaeded with extra money or at least the potential for extra money.

]]> By: Matt C. http://mmapayout.com/2010/03/mmaterial-facts-031710-details-on-huertas-contract-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-390 Matt C. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:47:11 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=8957#comment-390 @ Jose Mendoza - Bellator pretty much had to be open to letting their fighters fight in other promotions because of their schedule. They would have had fighters sitting on the shelf for months between seasons if they didn't allow some of them to fight elsewhere. I'm skeptical we will see much more of that now that they seem to have their schedule set for at least the next year. Also if Roger Huerta got what he was asking for I don't blame him for signing with Bellator. Good for him getting what he wanted. @ Jose Mendoza – Bellator pretty much had to be open to letting their fighters fight in other promotions because of their schedule. They would have had fighters sitting on the shelf for months between seasons if they didn’t allow some of them to fight elsewhere. I’m skeptical we will see much more of that now that they seem to have their schedule set for at least the next year.

Also if Roger Huerta got what he was asking for I don’t blame him for signing with Bellator. Good for him getting what he wanted.

]]> By: Jose Mendoza http://mmapayout.com/2010/03/mmaterial-facts-031710-details-on-huertas-contract-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-389 Jose Mendoza Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:19:38 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=8957#comment-389 mmaguru and Matt. C, Both raise some very good points. Bellator was scrutinized for having really tough binding contracts its first year, but we have not heard anything since. Not sure if they may have loosened up some clauses for recently signed fighter. Also, though they are exclusive contracts, Bellator has announced previously that they are open to co-promotion and letting their fighters fight in other promotions, though with certain requirements. As an MMA fighter, it's their job and goal to look out for their future, and if you can be a fighter that a promotion can get behind, like Huerta, then there is no reason for Huerta not to have made the jump. Fighting and proving you are the best is only a small part of having a career as a fighter and securing your financial stability and future is always the goal. mmaguru and Matt. C,

Both raise some very good points. Bellator was scrutinized for having really tough binding contracts its first year, but we have not heard anything since. Not sure if they may have loosened up some clauses for recently signed fighter. Also, though they are exclusive contracts, Bellator has announced previously that they are open to co-promotion and letting their fighters fight in other promotions, though with certain requirements.

As an MMA fighter, it’s their job and goal to look out for their future, and if you can be a fighter that a promotion can get behind, like Huerta, then there is no reason for Huerta not to have made the jump. Fighting and proving you are the best is only a small part of having a career as a fighter and securing your financial stability and future is always the goal.

]]> By: Matt C. http://mmapayout.com/2010/03/mmaterial-facts-031710-details-on-huertas-contract-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-388 Matt C. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:38:29 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=8957#comment-388 @mmaguru - After reading MMA Payout's breakdown of the Bellator contract I don't see the UFC's contracts as being more heavy handed. Check it out and see what you think. http://mmapayout.com/2009/03/inside-the-bellator-contract/ @mmaguru – After reading MMA Payout’s breakdown of the Bellator contract I don’t see the UFC’s contracts as being more heavy handed. Check it out and see what you think.

http://mmapayout.com/2009/03/inside-the-bellator-contract/

]]> By: mmaguru http://mmapayout.com/2010/03/mmaterial-facts-031710-details-on-huertas-contract-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-387 mmaguru Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:56:08 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=8957#comment-387 It's interesting to see fighters with cross over appeal starting to look at the big picture against the restricted contracts that the UFC are expecting their roster to sign. Although the UFC tends to be the biggest paying ship in town, a person can't fight for ever. Randy is an anomaly, not the norm. As fighters start to consider their future revenue streams, perhaps being locked down by a heavy handed contract even though more lucrative may not be in the best interest of the individual. It’s interesting to see fighters with cross over appeal starting to look at the big picture against the restricted contracts that the UFC are expecting their roster to sign. Although the UFC tends to be the biggest paying ship in town, a person can’t fight for ever. Randy is an anomaly, not the norm. As fighters start to consider their future revenue streams, perhaps being locked down by a heavy handed contract even though more lucrative may not be in the best interest of the individual.

]]> By: Caidel http://mmapayout.com/2010/03/mmaterial-facts-031710-details-on-huertas-contract-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-386 Caidel Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:00:50 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=8957#comment-386 I do not agree with your assesment. Yeah, his first 4-5 wins in UFC weren't nothing extra and it was to build up him (which succeeded). But after that, his fight with Guida was pretty good and Huerta showed great endurance and resiliency (and to beat Guida isn't as easy as it sounds). Then he lost on points with Florian (who is basically #2 in division), also feat that many fighters cannot really do - actually he is the only guy in UFC that Florian did not finished (not counting Florian's losses) And about handpicking: His last opponent, Gray Maynard was on the contrary specifically handpicked to defeat Huerta and do it in a way that would diminish Huerta's value most. But it backfired, fight was not bad and Huerta lost by a split decision which is really not that humiliating. After all, Huerta is not some angel from a heaven or clearcut TOP10 guy he is #38 ranked fighter, which is pretty right I think. Power of his signing is elsewhere: He is basically first guy to go to the Bellator rather than UFC, because he still had that choice (go to UFC). He wasn't kicked out because of his fights or because of his losses, it was because of a contract dispute. I'm not really that sure he will win that tournament, but he will be a nice measure for Bellator guys. And should he won that, of course that Alvarez is a favorite. He is ranked #3, not #38. So, Huerta is not "biggest waste of time in MMA" (that is Jose Canseco I believe :)) but a very solid mid-to-top-level guy and very, very good acquisition for Bellator. I do not agree with your assesment. Yeah, his first 4-5 wins in UFC weren’t nothing extra and it was to build up him (which succeeded). But after that, his fight with Guida was pretty good and Huerta showed great endurance and resiliency (and to beat Guida isn’t as easy as it sounds). Then he lost on points with Florian (who is basically #2 in division), also feat that many fighters cannot really do – actually he is the only guy in UFC that Florian did not finished (not counting Florian’s losses)

And about handpicking: His last opponent, Gray Maynard was on the contrary specifically handpicked to defeat Huerta and do it in a way that would diminish Huerta’s value most. But it backfired, fight was not bad and Huerta lost by a split decision which is really not that humiliating.

After all, Huerta is not some angel from a heaven or clearcut TOP10 guy he is #38 ranked fighter, which is pretty right I think. Power of his signing is elsewhere: He is basically first guy to go to the Bellator rather than UFC, because he still had that choice (go to UFC). He wasn’t kicked out because of his fights or because of his losses, it was because of a contract dispute.

I’m not really that sure he will win that tournament, but he will be a nice measure for Bellator guys. And should he won that, of course that Alvarez is a favorite. He is ranked #3, not #38.

So, Huerta is not “biggest waste of time in MMA” (that is Jose Canseco I believe :) ) but a very solid mid-to-top-level guy and very, very good acquisition for Bellator.

]]> By: Brain Smasher http://mmapayout.com/2010/03/mmaterial-facts-031710-details-on-huertas-contract-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-385 Brain Smasher Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:31:26 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=8957#comment-385 Huerta is the biggest waste of time in MMA. He was a brand created by the UFC to draw hispanic fans. Something have have tried to do for a very long time. Look at his fights. The UFC would search the globe looking for someone with a good record who technically, stylistically, and physically couldnt match up with Huerta. There were a half dozen fighters where Huerta's opponent was in his first UFC fight where they picked them out of the farm leagues. Also most of the guys were much smaller. The Pure BJJ guy he fought and Garcia soon after fighting Huerta went down in weight class'. As soon as Huerta got a taste of someone with talent he got beat badly. He realized he was way over hyped and couldnt hang with decent fighters and used what was left of his name to ransom the UFC and others for a HUGE payday knowing his limited skills would soon make it unlikey to make it through any normal contract with any credibility left. He will get beat by Alverez too. Huerta is tough and scrappy so he will hang tough early but Alverez will use his better technique and power to win on the feet and also mix in takedowns to take the clear decision if he dont land a KO. Huerta is the biggest waste of time in MMA. He was a brand created by the UFC to draw hispanic fans. Something have have tried to do for a very long time. Look at his fights. The UFC would search the globe looking for someone with a good record who technically, stylistically, and physically couldnt match up with Huerta. There were a half dozen fighters where Huerta’s opponent was in his first UFC fight where they picked them out of the farm leagues. Also most of the guys were much smaller. The Pure BJJ guy he fought and Garcia soon after fighting Huerta went down in weight class’.

As soon as Huerta got a taste of someone with talent he got beat badly. He realized he was way over hyped and couldnt hang with decent fighters and used what was left of his name to ransom the UFC and others for a HUGE payday knowing his limited skills would soon make it unlikey to make it through any normal contract with any credibility left.

He will get beat by Alverez too. Huerta is tough and scrappy so he will hang tough early but Alverez will use his better technique and power to win on the feet and also mix in takedowns to take the clear decision if he dont land a KO.

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