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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brain Smasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brain Smasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>edit for typo&#039;s.

I wouldnt say Brocks forehead is proof. Im sure he is and was doing roids and HGH but i wouldnt go so far as to point out any one effect of PEs because most effects are found in people naturally. Large Forehead, acne, etc. Although its rampant in the UFC imo. Its worse in other promotions because less strict testing adds anobolic steroids on top of HGH. Testing or not testing has nothing to do with the future of the sport. To suggest the sport will be held back would mean that the rest of the world is testing and negative attention is brought on the UFC for not testing. That simply isnt the case. no one is testing. Like the article above says the one current test we have now has everyone skeptical of its effectiveness and practicality. The UFC should only test if the majority of other sports leagues test. Also testing is done by the commission which the UFC has no control over. Outside of the US most countries dont even test for steroids let alone HGH. So how does MMA need testing to go global if many outside the US
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<p>I wouldnt say Brocks forehead is proof. Im sure he is and was doing roids and HGH but i wouldnt go so far as to point out any one effect of PEs because most effects are found in people naturally. Large Forehead, acne, etc. Although its rampant in the UFC imo. Its worse in other promotions because less strict testing adds anobolic steroids on top of HGH. Testing or not testing has nothing to do with the future of the sport. To suggest the sport will be held back would mean that the rest of the world is testing and negative attention is brought on the UFC for not testing. That simply isnt the case. no one is testing. Like the article above says the one current test we have now has everyone skeptical of its effectiveness and practicality. The UFC should only test if the majority of other sports leagues test. Also testing is done by the commission which the UFC has no control over. Outside of the US most countries dont even test for steroids let alone HGH. So how does MMA need testing to go global if many outside the US<br />
dont even have tests for anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Brain Smasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brain Smasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say Brocks forehead is is proof. Im sure he is and was doing roids and HGH but i would go so far as to point ount any one effect of PEs because most off effects are found in people naturally. Large Forehead, acne, etc. Although its rampant in the UFC imo. Its worse in other promotions because less strict testing adds anobolic steroids on top of HGH. Testing or not testing has nothing to do with the future of the sport. To suggest the sport will be held back would mean that the rest of the world is testing and negative attention is brought on the UFC for not testing. That simply isnt the case. no one is testing. Like the article above says the one current test we have now has everyone skeptical of its effectiveness and practicality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say Brocks forehead is is proof. Im sure he is and was doing roids and HGH but i would go so far as to point ount any one effect of PEs because most off effects are found in people naturally. Large Forehead, acne, etc. Although its rampant in the UFC imo. Its worse in other promotions because less strict testing adds anobolic steroids on top of HGH. Testing or not testing has nothing to do with the future of the sport. To suggest the sport will be held back would mean that the rest of the world is testing and negative attention is brought on the UFC for not testing. That simply isnt the case. no one is testing. Like the article above says the one current test we have now has everyone skeptical of its effectiveness and practicality.</p>
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		<title>By: teee</title>
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		<dc:creator>teee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brain smasher for once i agree with ya....i believe that there should be testing on hgh for the sport to go global...brock lesnar is a heavyweight champ but just his facial big forehead and arms are just not natural lookin...an gives the sport an illegit name..not to metion he was arrested on steroid possesion years back...if they implement blood testing.most ufc guys would test positive...it would hurt the sport for a while but it would strengthen it in the future...one step backward two steps forward</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brain smasher for once i agree with ya&#8230;.i believe that there should be testing on hgh for the sport to go global&#8230;brock lesnar is a heavyweight champ but just his facial big forehead and arms are just not natural lookin&#8230;an gives the sport an illegit name..not to metion he was arrested on steroid possesion years back&#8230;if they implement blood testing.most ufc guys would test positive&#8230;it would hurt the sport for a while but it would strengthen it in the future&#8230;one step backward two steps forward</p>
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		<title>By: Brain Smasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brain Smasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HGH is what will turn MMA on its head or at very least cause there to be a changing of the guard os far as the best fighters go. I have always believed Anobolic roids havent been the issue in the UFC and some other shows. It has been HGH ever since commissions started testing. I have seen first hand guys i train with out of nowhere change physically. Not just in muscle and ability but bone structure. Guys who were lcky to be 160 lbs soaking wet were now on a body frame that was 15 lbs bigger. This happen when he went to another gym and trained with a few UFC fighters. One of my workout partners when to Brazil with a then UFC fighter to sharpen up on his BJJ. He come back contemplating wether to take HGH. That tells me he got down there and realized what all the big names are doing. I advised against it because he was a marginal MMA fighter naturally at that point. Taking HGH may help but would it be worth it if he still never got to the next level? That was my way of looking at it.

I would say just about every top fighter is using HGH. But the problem is from the little info i know about HGH there really isnt much negative effects unless you take to much and get HGH gut like Monson.and some body builders. A lot of people consider this like a wonder drug. Then you have the debate of what a performance enhancer is. Anything is a performance enhancer. Eye contacts, vitamens, protien powder, the enegy drink to help you get through a work out, or pain killers like tylenol to get through the injuries. If there is not legit negative effects from the use of HGH, should it be banned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HGH is what will turn MMA on its head or at very least cause there to be a changing of the guard os far as the best fighters go. I have always believed Anobolic roids havent been the issue in the UFC and some other shows. It has been HGH ever since commissions started testing. I have seen first hand guys i train with out of nowhere change physically. Not just in muscle and ability but bone structure. Guys who were lcky to be 160 lbs soaking wet were now on a body frame that was 15 lbs bigger. This happen when he went to another gym and trained with a few UFC fighters. One of my workout partners when to Brazil with a then UFC fighter to sharpen up on his BJJ. He come back contemplating wether to take HGH. That tells me he got down there and realized what all the big names are doing. I advised against it because he was a marginal MMA fighter naturally at that point. Taking HGH may help but would it be worth it if he still never got to the next level? That was my way of looking at it.</p>
<p>I would say just about every top fighter is using HGH. But the problem is from the little info i know about HGH there really isnt much negative effects unless you take to much and get HGH gut like Monson.and some body builders. A lot of people consider this like a wonder drug. Then you have the debate of what a performance enhancer is. Anything is a performance enhancer. Eye contacts, vitamens, protien powder, the enegy drink to help you get through a work out, or pain killers like tylenol to get through the injuries. If there is not legit negative effects from the use of HGH, should it be banned?</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Mendoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Mendoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Due to boxing ( Pac-Man vs PBF), this may impact MMA sooner than later.  Interesting part of article is Keith Kizer&#039;s quote:

&quot;Keith Kizer, executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, said he doesn&#039;t &quot;know where this leads,&quot; after a dispute over blood testing led to the cancellation of next month&#039;s scheduled Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight in Las Vegas.

&quot;This is a pleasant development and something we&#039;ll take great interest in,&quot; Kizer said.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to boxing ( Pac-Man vs PBF), this may impact MMA sooner than later.  Interesting part of article is Keith Kizer&#8217;s quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Keith Kizer, executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, said he doesn&#8217;t &#8220;know where this leads,&#8221; after a dispute over blood testing led to the cancellation of next month&#8217;s scheduled Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight in Las Vegas.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a pleasant development and something we&#8217;ll take great interest in,&#8221; Kizer said.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really needs to happen.  Urine testing doesn&#039;t detect all kinds of PEDs and the masking agents people use to conceal their use.

Some commissions brag about how they have out of competition testing, but the fact of the matter is very few athletes have actually been tested in these programs.  It is mostly an illusion.

The problem is when big name fighters test positive it really hurts the bottom line of the promoter and in the end, does the promoter want clean athletes or a bigger payday?

What kind of costs are we actually talking here?  Is this information freely available considering it is a commercially made test?

If everyone in the industry was serious about fighter safety this should be implemented at least for the UFC where athletes are competing at the highest level, because some athletes look for any edge they can get.

Steroids might not matter if your banging a baseball over a fence, but when your job is punching someone in the face, we should take this seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really needs to happen.  Urine testing doesn&#8217;t detect all kinds of PEDs and the masking agents people use to conceal their use.</p>
<p>Some commissions brag about how they have out of competition testing, but the fact of the matter is very few athletes have actually been tested in these programs.  It is mostly an illusion.</p>
<p>The problem is when big name fighters test positive it really hurts the bottom line of the promoter and in the end, does the promoter want clean athletes or a bigger payday?</p>
<p>What kind of costs are we actually talking here?  Is this information freely available considering it is a commercially made test?</p>
<p>If everyone in the industry was serious about fighter safety this should be implemented at least for the UFC where athletes are competing at the highest level, because some athletes look for any edge they can get.</p>
<p>Steroids might not matter if your banging a baseball over a fence, but when your job is punching someone in the face, we should take this seriously.</p>
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