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	<title>Comments on: Fedor vs. Rogers: Payout Perspective</title>
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		<title>By: TeeVee Ratings Down for Strikeforce Nashville</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeeVee Ratings Down for Strikeforce Nashville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ratings are way down 30% compared to the last Strikeforce on CBS card which drew 3.79 million on average (a number that didn’t count the 5+ million that tuned in to watch Fedor fight). I’ll [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ratings are way down 30% compared to the last Strikeforce on CBS card which drew 3.79 million on average (a number that didn’t count the 5+ million that tuned in to watch Fedor fight). I’ll [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brain Smasher</title>
		<link>http://mmapayout.com/2009/11/fedor-vs-rogers-payout-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>Brain Smasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to see Gegard fight someone else. I was not impressed with his fight with Sudoku. Sudoku dont move. He in incapable of hitting moving targets and his overall game is very limited. Gegard stood right in front of him like an idiot. So with that i expect Sudoku to look better than he should have otherwise. But Gegard is going to have to fight smarter and be less sloppy in all areas of his game. He gets by now because he is a little quicker than his oppoennts but that wont always be the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to see Gegard fight someone else. I was not impressed with his fight with Sudoku. Sudoku dont move. He in incapable of hitting moving targets and his overall game is very limited. Gegard stood right in front of him like an idiot. So with that i expect Sudoku to look better than he should have otherwise. But Gegard is going to have to fight smarter and be less sloppy in all areas of his game. He gets by now because he is a little quicker than his oppoennts but that wont always be the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He looked thin for 205, I think he needs to put on another 5-8 lbs of lean mass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He looked thin for 205, I think he needs to put on another 5-8 lbs of lean mass.</p>
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		<title>By: Slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mousasi&#039;s not ready for hendo</description>
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		<title>By: Brain Smasher</title>
		<link>http://mmapayout.com/2009/11/fedor-vs-rogers-payout-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator>Brain Smasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caidel on November 9th, 2009 9:04 AM

&quot;BrainSmasher: I disagree on that Fedor comments. Fedor was “soft in midsection” exactly same as he always is and how he always will be. Genetics, you know?&quot;


No he wasnt always the same. Go look at his Pride USA fight weight in. He was always in the mid 230&#039;s in Pride Japan. Pride in Vegas he looked very lean but much lighter. Like he couldnt keep the size on him. The scales backed this up when he weighted in with Blue Jeans and a belt and was only like 223. Now Fedor is back in the 230&#039;s and more belly fat and noticeably smaller arms.

BTW, im not saying Fedor isnt always pudgy. Im saying he was even more so. Of course Fedor never had abs. But he was not in his normal shape.

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/600/_images/pictures/20091106050805_IMG_6372.JPG

http://photos.mmaweekly.com/gallery/PRIDE/Pride_32/weigh-ins/25_FedorEmelianenkoPrideUSA.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caidel on November 9th, 2009 9:04 AM</p>
<p>&#8220;BrainSmasher: I disagree on that Fedor comments. Fedor was “soft in midsection” exactly same as he always is and how he always will be. Genetics, you know?&#8221;</p>
<p>No he wasnt always the same. Go look at his Pride USA fight weight in. He was always in the mid 230&#8242;s in Pride Japan. Pride in Vegas he looked very lean but much lighter. Like he couldnt keep the size on him. The scales backed this up when he weighted in with Blue Jeans and a belt and was only like 223. Now Fedor is back in the 230&#8242;s and more belly fat and noticeably smaller arms.</p>
<p>BTW, im not saying Fedor isnt always pudgy. Im saying he was even more so. Of course Fedor never had abs. But he was not in his normal shape.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/600/_images/pictures/20091106050805_IMG_6372.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/600/_images/pictures/20091106050805_IMG_6372.JPG</a></p>
<p><a href="http://photos.mmaweekly.com/gallery/PRIDE/Pride_32/weigh-ins/25_FedorEmelianenkoPrideUSA.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://photos.mmaweekly.com/gallery/PRIDE/Pride_32/weigh-ins/25_FedorEmelianenkoPrideUSA.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://mmapayout.com/2009/11/fedor-vs-rogers-payout-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: commentators..... I think Frank Mir (unavailable) and Bas Rutten are the best color commentators. Just because we dont hear goldberg and rogan doesn&#039;t mean that they are not doing a good job.

I am very excited about the potential showed. Let&#039;s see who Coker sets up next.&gt;?!?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: commentators&#8230;.. I think Frank Mir (unavailable) and Bas Rutten are the best color commentators. Just because we dont hear goldberg and rogan doesn&#8217;t mean that they are not doing a good job.</p>
<p>I am very excited about the potential showed. Let&#8217;s see who Coker sets up next.&gt;?!?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say that decent is an understatement. This was a huge night for MMA. About the production quality. I actually thought that it was excellently presented. Kelsey, you are right, if you switched back to UFC free programming, you would notice a difference between camera angles, etc, but some of the shots that CBS got especially with Mousasi and Sokodjou, were shot so as the view could see the head movement to avoid punches... looked like a video game. I think it was better than UFC screenshots. Maybe not better, but definitely different.

Re: Gegard Mousasi v. Hendo??? what do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say that decent is an understatement. This was a huge night for MMA. About the production quality. I actually thought that it was excellently presented. Kelsey, you are right, if you switched back to UFC free programming, you would notice a difference between camera angles, etc, but some of the shots that CBS got especially with Mousasi and Sokodjou, were shot so as the view could see the head movement to avoid punches&#8230; looked like a video game. I think it was better than UFC screenshots. Maybe not better, but definitely different.</p>
<p>Re: Gegard Mousasi v. Hendo??? what do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Caidel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BrainSmasher: I disagree on that Fedor comments. Fedor was &quot;soft in midsection&quot; exactly same as he always is and how he always will be. Genetics, you know?

Also, his cardio was pretty impressive, when taken in account the fact, that he got his nose broken and busted up 10 seconds into the fight and for the rest of the fight, he must breath through his mouth, which is a HUGE cardio factor. But he made it trhough (and Rogers was gassed more than him at the end of the first...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrainSmasher: I disagree on that Fedor comments. Fedor was &#8220;soft in midsection&#8221; exactly same as he always is and how he always will be. Genetics, you know?</p>
<p>Also, his cardio was pretty impressive, when taken in account the fact, that he got his nose broken and busted up 10 seconds into the fight and for the rest of the fight, he must breath through his mouth, which is a HUGE cardio factor. But he made it trhough (and Rogers was gassed more than him at the end of the first&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: MMAmadman</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMAmadman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;d say 4 million viewers on a Saturday night is going to give Strikeforce life on CBS, especially given the concentration of young people watching -- #1 in 18-49 in the 10:00 hour for CBS on a Saturday night is a definite win. I agree with the production criticism and something needs to change with the announcers. Mauro Ranallo seems the odd man out, but I&#039;ve always liked him for whatever reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;d say 4 million viewers on a Saturday night is going to give Strikeforce life on CBS, especially given the concentration of young people watching &#8212; #1 in 18-49 in the 10:00 hour for CBS on a Saturday night is a definite win. I agree with the production criticism and something needs to change with the announcers. Mauro Ranallo seems the odd man out, but I&#8217;ve always liked him for whatever reason.</p>
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		<title>By: BrainSmasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrainSmasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest complaint of the handful i have was the match making. This is what makes or breaks a promotion as far as long term success and growth potential, IMO. You have to be very green in the MMA experience department to set up Shields vs Miller on your first Network show as a lead in for the main event and set it up for 5 rounds. The fight played out the only way it could have and anyone who follows the sport(technical aspect of it) would know. Shields only has BJJ and its impossible to submit Miller if you cant punish him in anyway to set it up. Miller has no power to wrestle or be any threat to land a big shot to stop Shields. It was a garenteed 25 minute wrestling match.

If this was 3 rounds it would have been a big deal. If Miller had climbed his way up the SF ladder you could argue SF had no choice as he was next for the belt. BUt to bring him in and hand pick him over everyone out there. That shows a clear lack of understanding of how styles make fights.


Of course it looks like life outside of the &quot;Pride Bubble&quot; has bit Fedor like everyone who fought in Pride. He looked very soft in the mid section and cardio looked to be a factor. This Fedor would not beat Brock and i think he would probably lose to Santos and Cain too. But im sure we will never see it as SF is creating their own bubble. Already trying to set up a Rodgers rematch then overrated Werdum waiting inline. Sounds like easy paydays to me.

All in all it was a pretty good event. I watch without the sound turned up so i didnt have to listen to the train wreck Frank Shamrock is and the scripted puns and inexperience of the other commentators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest complaint of the handful i have was the match making. This is what makes or breaks a promotion as far as long term success and growth potential, IMO. You have to be very green in the MMA experience department to set up Shields vs Miller on your first Network show as a lead in for the main event and set it up for 5 rounds. The fight played out the only way it could have and anyone who follows the sport(technical aspect of it) would know. Shields only has BJJ and its impossible to submit Miller if you cant punish him in anyway to set it up. Miller has no power to wrestle or be any threat to land a big shot to stop Shields. It was a garenteed 25 minute wrestling match.</p>
<p>If this was 3 rounds it would have been a big deal. If Miller had climbed his way up the SF ladder you could argue SF had no choice as he was next for the belt. BUt to bring him in and hand pick him over everyone out there. That shows a clear lack of understanding of how styles make fights.</p>
<p>Of course it looks like life outside of the &#8220;Pride Bubble&#8221; has bit Fedor like everyone who fought in Pride. He looked very soft in the mid section and cardio looked to be a factor. This Fedor would not beat Brock and i think he would probably lose to Santos and Cain too. But im sure we will never see it as SF is creating their own bubble. Already trying to set up a Rodgers rematch then overrated Werdum waiting inline. Sounds like easy paydays to me.</p>
<p>All in all it was a pretty good event. I watch without the sound turned up so i didnt have to listen to the train wreck Frank Shamrock is and the scripted puns and inexperience of the other commentators.</p>
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