Comments on: UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/ Thu, 24 May 2012 01:32:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: UFC is DEAD?? PPV number don't lie!!! - Page 2 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-61 UFC is DEAD?? PPV number don't lie!!! - Page 2 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:56:59 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=5301#comment-61 [...] vs. Penn) Vegas UFC 93 - 320,000 (Henderson vs. Franklin) Dublin, Ireland Average = 490,000 buys UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA [...] [...] vs. Penn) Vegas UFC 93 – 320,000 (Henderson vs. Franklin) Dublin, Ireland Average = 490,000 buys UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA [...]

]]> By: How many PPV buys was 102? - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-60 How many PPV buys was 102? - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:42:05 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=5301#comment-60 [...] according to this UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA __________________ All Time Favs: Bas Rutten, GSP, Lesnar, Rampage, Wandy, Don Frye Current [...] [...] according to this UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA __________________ All Time Favs: Bas Rutten, GSP, Lesnar, Rampage, Wandy, Don Frye Current [...]

]]> By: Sherdog, that's a silly poll! - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Sherdog, that's a silly poll! - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:57:45 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=5301#comment-59 [...] Originally Posted by mikahsteele Couture vs. Nog did less than 500,000 buys. Is this true? Edit:I guess it is. An estimated 435,000 buys. UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA [...] [...] Originally Posted by mikahsteele Couture vs. Nog did less than 500,000 buys. Is this true? Edit:I guess it is. An estimated 435,000 buys. UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA [...]

]]> By: Mayweather gonna outsell Franklin-Belfort, WHO CARES!! - Page 2 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-58 Mayweather gonna outsell Franklin-Belfort, WHO CARES!! - Page 2 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums Sun, 06 Sep 2009 18:31:51 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=5301#comment-58 [...] the kind of numbers an average UFC card can expect to pull in. UFC 102 did around 435,000 buys. UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA __________________ [...] [...] the kind of numbers an average UFC card can expect to pull in. UFC 102 did around 435,000 buys. UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA __________________ [...]

]]> By: ATTENTION: UFC 103 "Sept 19" - Page 9 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-57 ATTENTION: UFC 103 "Sept 19" - Page 9 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:46:17 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=5301#comment-57 [...] Originally Posted by KO (F-5) UFC 103 is in the US and coming off a run of big PPV numbers after UFC 100. Expect 500-800k. No way UFC 103 does more then 400k. Its a deep undercard for us nerds but the average person who buys PPVs has only heard of Franklin and he is the UFC's worst main event draw. Vitor left before the UFC exploded and Cro Cop is the dude who had his head knocked off a few years ago, the rest of the card has UFN name recognition. UFC 102 got 435k according to Meltzer: UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA [...] [...] Originally Posted by KO (F-5) UFC 103 is in the US and coming off a run of big PPV numbers after UFC 100. Expect 500-800k. No way UFC 103 does more then 400k. Its a deep undercard for us nerds but the average person who buys PPVs has only heard of Franklin and he is the UFC's worst main event draw. Vitor left before the UFC exploded and Cro Cop is the dude who had his head knocked off a few years ago, the rest of the card has UFN name recognition. UFC 102 got 435k according to Meltzer: UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA [...]

]]> By: UFC 102 PPV Buys? - Page 2 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-56 UFC 102 PPV Buys? - Page 2 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:13:05 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=5301#comment-56 [...] Posted by under_t UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA According to Dave Meltzer, 435,000 buys. I expected Couture to bring in a little more but the [...] [...] Posted by under_t UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA According to Dave Meltzer, 435,000 buys. I expected Couture to bring in a little more but the [...]

]]> By: UFC 102 PPV Buys? - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-55 UFC 102 PPV Buys? - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:36:48 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=5301#comment-55 [...] UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA According to Dave Meltzer, 435,000 buys. [...] [...] UFC/WEC: Absorption Problems? : MMAPayout.com: The Business of MMA According to Dave Meltzer, 435,000 buys. [...]

]]> By: Derek Stewart http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-54 Derek Stewart Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:34:14 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=5301#comment-54 I disagree with you, David and Zac. The only division that the WEC will fold into the UFC in the near future will be lightweight. That will fill up 20 or so fighters of the 40-50 that they need to add to get to 3 shows a month in 2010. They will also continue to add fighters in every division, but especially heavyweight to ensure that Fedor has no one recognizable to compete with. (The next best thing to signing him directly is to sign all of his most interesting opponents over time.) Before they merge the lightweight division though, they will develop their own WEC flyweight version of "The Ultimate Fighter" on Versus, obviously under a different name and slightly different format. Urijah is made for tv and he'll have his chance soon. I disagree with you, David and Zac. The only division that the WEC will fold into the UFC in the near future will be lightweight. That will fill up 20 or so fighters of the 40-50 that they need to add to get to 3 shows a month in 2010. They will also continue to add fighters in every division, but especially heavyweight to ensure that Fedor has no one recognizable to compete with. (The next best thing to signing him directly is to sign all of his most interesting opponents over time.)

Before they merge the lightweight division though, they will develop their own WEC flyweight version of “The Ultimate Fighter” on Versus, obviously under a different name and slightly different format. Urijah is made for tv and he’ll have his chance soon.

]]> By: Gregory Monskie http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Gregory Monskie Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:10:25 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=5301#comment-53 One of the problems not considered in this article is the need to pay the former WEC-now current UFC fighters on a higher pay scale. The WEC was getting by on 150k-200k payrolls in small venues before. Once these guys get rolled into the UFC, their pay necessarily has to increase. Money makes these things happen, and it seems like the central issue is whether having WEC fights in the UFC will increase PPV buys enough to match or exceed the profit earned by the WEC, given the increased overhead of not only having a larger roster, but giving the 40-50 new UFC fighters a sweet raise. One of the problems not considered in this article is the need to pay the former WEC-now current UFC fighters on a higher pay scale. The WEC was getting by on 150k-200k payrolls in small venues before. Once these guys get rolled into the UFC, their pay necessarily has to increase. Money makes these things happen, and it seems like the central issue is whether having WEC fights in the UFC will increase PPV buys enough to match or exceed the profit earned by the WEC, given the increased overhead of not only having a larger roster, but giving the 40-50 new UFC fighters a sweet raise.

]]> By: Zac Robinson http://mmapayout.com/2009/09/ufcwec-absorption-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Zac Robinson Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:12:13 +0000 http://mmapayout.com/?p=5301#comment-52 David, I agree, the UFC has room for the current WEC fighters, especially with the anticipated increase of events. I also like the re-branding idea, it is something I mentioned not long ago, stating, "And if it really would be too much trouble to come together, Zuffa should just dissolve the WEC name, start calling it the UFC, have Dana White and a few famous fighters show up at the events, and bam the same product is instantly and infinitely more successful." Obviously easier said than done, but it kind of makes sense. David,

I agree, the UFC has room for the current WEC fighters, especially with the anticipated increase of events. I also like the re-branding idea, it is something I mentioned not long ago, stating, “And if it really would be too much trouble to come together, Zuffa should just dissolve the WEC name, start calling it the UFC, have Dana White and a few famous fighters show up at the events, and bam the same product is instantly and infinitely more successful.”

Obviously easier said than done, but it kind of makes sense.

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