Comments on: Strikeforce's October Surprise?

By: Brain Smasher

Brain Smasher — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:40:36 +0000

Coute vs Nog was an even fight on the Sports Books. If you were so sure and not just a dumbass. Why didnt you unload of Nog? Your just a fan boy tool. Nothing more.

Mike Brown event broke records? Then you say you watched it for free. LOL. Well there there you go. The WEC dont make much money because people do not pay to see Mike Brown or the others. Since noone is paying to see them the WEC dont have money to pay them. Get a life and quit worrying about what other men’s paychecks are.

The UFC has done more for international MMA than any other promotions ever. So quit being a jackass. MMAPayout has done reports of the popularity of the UFC in dozens of countrys. Mexico, UK, Canada, Brazil, Philippines, etc. The groth of the sport in these countries is SOLELY due to the UFC.

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:59:57 +0000

Brain Smasher:
Nog was damaged goods when he fought prior to Randy. Brain Smasher should change your name to Brain Dead. (Everyone knew this except you and the other 77% of UFC fanatics.)
You have been drinking the water to long from the UFC bottle. Look around and notice , unless you just want to watch the knuckle draggers keep it up.
This is a sport that is International and competion is the key hopefully Stike Force and their new alliances will educate you to what is happening in the rest of the world. The UFC is not the NFL this is not a team sport it is one on one combat.

As ar as Mike Brown getting the shaft so did ,Torres,Faber,and many others.You are on the mma pay out site read the facts.
8-10 weeks of traing for the championship for 30K does not cover his expenses and fees.This is not a rookie this is someone at the top of their game and getting there brains beat out for peanuts. For your limited info the WEC card with Brown broke all records…and I watched it for free
Look for the UFC to fold WEC in the ranks . They have to or start losing talent to overseas markets where the get respect and promoted as the deserve.

I repeat competition is the key for all to see more talent and you might actually learn something. The UFC is in danger of inbreeding itself if it doesnot reach out. FEDOR is KING don’t forget it………..and he said no to Dana and and his WWE juced up champ……who has no class or respect for the sport…….

By: Brain Smasher

Brain Smasher — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:23:10 +0000

SF is an unknown Brand tool. Yes, if you have a Brand that is well known for its quality then it will help. But i have followed this sport since the beginning and know as much as anyone about the sport. Yet i ddint know anything about Strikeforce UNTIL they got into MMA. So tell me how noone in MMA knowing who they are is going to help them in MMA? Boxing didnt help XC be a better MMA promotion. Kickboxing didnt help K1 be a better MMA promotion.Their Brand didnt do anything in MMA. But you again with just speculation are going to say SF is different with nothing to back it up.

By: RJ

RJ — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:12:02 +0000

@ Brain Smasher
No you missed what I was getting at because you’re not particularly bright if you don’t think a brand name speaks to the masses then you truly are a lost cause.
In the future do yourself a favor and when you’re getting killed in an argument stop continuing to reply trying to save face because you just keep burying yourself deeper in your own idiocy

By: RJ

RJ — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:10:14 +0000

By: Brain Smasher

Brain Smasher — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:50:57 +0000

Dan

Are you on Drugs? The first step to getting help is admitting you have a problem.

So the WEC should go out of business like 90% of the promotions just to pay Mike Brown more money? If Mike Brown was worth more money maybe he would draw in some fans and Zuffa wouldnt be trying to fold the WEC. You are only worth what you bring to the table. Noone is paying to see Mike Brown.

And LOL at the japanese cant do no wrong way of thinking. They dont pay better than the UFC. Some japanese fighters who are of value in japan get more because the UFC cant use them. But the american fighters dont get much. Thats why all the fighters come to the UFC from Pride.

The UFC making bad match ups? This last year has sceen the best match ups in MMA history. Look at Little Nog vs Luis Cane for example. Yes styles make fights which is why Nog will lose and he isnt that great anyway. Yes everyone can be beat. But you criticize the UFC for not having fighters from this country or that. But what did Pride or Dream do for World MMA? Nothing. Pride promised to come to the US for 5 years before they did. When they did it was only when the bottom fell out in japan. But since they didnt build a foundation in the states like the UFC is now doing in the UK and Canada. It was doomed to fail. If done right the USA couldnt have carried Pride through the tough times. But they didnt care about the American fans and built their company to cater to the japanese.

If you thought Nog vs Couture was so one sided then you are clueless about the sport and just nutrider anyone from Pride. Nogs last fight looked like crap. Nog vs Couture was a close fight that technically Randy was the better fighter but his chin is shot due to his age. But he landed punches at will on Nog. LOL at “dominated”. Take the blinders off buddy.

By: Brain Smasher

Brain Smasher — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:34:11 +0000

I missed what you were getting at because its so stupid. A company name does not equal success. Its the people behind the name that make the decisions. So saying SF will somehow do what everyone else has failed to do because their name existed in another field, not MMA, and has been around a long time. Well its laughable.

Thats like bring back the old IFC name and claiming it as a cant miss success because it has existed in the past in MMA/NHB at that. Look at the WFA. They were around a long time. Went away and then comeback only to fail again. In the end SF will depend on the decisions Coke and his crew make just like XC was decided by the powers to be in that promotions. Which was more than Lappen and Shaw. There were many more people with power than those 2. Shaw was dismissed and his son was involved too.

But like i said Coker using a name thats been around dont give him any advantages. Its meaningless. The only thing that matters is the credentials of the employees under that umbrella. And whether SF is more qualified than Elite XC. That is yet to be determined.

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:23:28 +0000

UFC vs Strike Force
It is a proven fact that competition breeds a better product . UFC already is starting to smell funny with poor match ups and canned responses from fighters. There is always someone who can kick someone else’s ass. Styles make fights and the best is not solely in the UFC.
There a many great fighters that the American audience has not seen from Europe and Asia as well as South America. Competion will force Dana to pay more and treat his fighters with the respect they deserve. Paying Mike Brown 30K for defending his title is a joke and is doing a diservice to the sport and the fighter.
There are several talented fighters that need the exposure that competion brings out,among them is another Fedor,Wand,Brown,BJ etc. etc.
Pride was that kind of promotion and Dream offers many great fighers who are paid better to fight.
Dana is treating this sport as a meat market and hurting the legacy of MMA.
The fact he is lashing out about Strike Force shows he is aware that he is limiting the value of his fight cards. He confidence with the uneducated fight fan was so evident when 77% thought that Randy C. would beat Nog. Anyone who new anything new that Randy was going to lose and he was dominated and 77% of the poor uninformed typical UFC fan was wrong in picking Randy. Why ? because they did not know enough about Nog and the history of what he has done. There is a lot more out there than UFC, go find it on HD Net,the internet….
Strike Force is a good thing for all the fans……….UFC has been watering down their fight cards for some time now and now you know the reason why.

By: RJ

RJ — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:47:13 +0000

Brain Smasher apparently you’ve missed the point of my comment all together. Gary Shaw promoted boxing events for years yeah no shit, and still does and Jeremy Lappen was involved in MMA for years before EliteXC also, but that wasn’t my point of disagreeing with what you said.

My point was EliteXC wasn’t a name or company involved in combat sports or mma for a long time at all. You said they were around a long time they weren’t. Where as Strikeforce has been a company since 1985.

Yeah no kidding they were going to hire some people who were experienced in promoting combat sports, but the company themselves was around for about a year and a half.
I didn’t think that anyone would take it that I meant EliteXC was full of employees and were run by people with no experience whatsoever, but I guess some people need every little thing spelled out for them.

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